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    Well here's the thing, you can't just tell me (or anyone else for that matter) not to voice my (our) opinion(s). When I'm wrong, tell me so, and tell me why. I have just as much right as a new player to know why my position is wrong, not simply that it is wrong. See the difference? I'm just as interested as anyone else here in being the best player I can be. To do that requires explanation and discussion. Again, it's not my problem if somebody isn't willing to read and understand an entire thread to get good information. Understanding comes at a price, and that price is due diligence.

    I'm going to call him out here, because it needs to be said. Having a conversation with Stufoo is like having a converstion with a brick wall. "Because I said so" or any variation of that answer isn't an acceptable response. Niether is insulting another player nor telling them to "just stop posting". That doesn't help anyone at all. For that matter, the post may as well simply read "you are wrong". What can anyone gain out of that?

    And don't think for a second that I'm attempting to hinder anyone's gameplay. When I'm giving advice, it's usually because I think I'm right, otherwise why would i be giving it? Again, if I'm not right, correct me and tell me why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    "Because I said so" or any variation of that answer isn't an acceptable response.
    It's also not an acceptable explanation for what you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Don't put VIT on a chest piece for PLD, DEF is vastly more beneficial.
    Nice. Not only were you objectively wrong about it, you had zero testing or stat knowledge to back it up but posted it anyway. That was your entire post, "Stufoo is wrong because I say so", you had nothing else to contribute. Don't act like you are a good poster or a victim. I told you why VIT was better to meld there and you continued to disagree for ten pages because you don't know how block rate, block power, VIT:DEF, VIT:mDEF, or defense itself works and you disagree that HP was a nice bonus, and at that point, honestly, why should I bother with you? Your misunderstandings of this game are such a clusterfuck I almost don't know where to begin, and I'm not your babysitter, I don't care if you ever beat anything in this game. You flat out call us all no-lifers because we are competent and actually progress in this game, and you honestly expect respect back?

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    Some of us are more rough around the edges than others.
    I never knew you cared.

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    (such as Brannigan's Bard Guide)
    Will Brannigan is a paladin. You're thinking of Carraway Author.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    Nice. Not only were you objectively wrong about it, you had zero testing or stat knowledge to back it up but posted it anyway. That was your entire post, "Stufoo is wrong because I say so", you had nothing else to contribute. Don't act like you are a good poster or a victim. I told you why VIT was better to meld there and you continued to disagree for ten pages because you don't know how block rate, block power, VITEF, VIT:mDEF, or defense itself works and you disagree that HP was a nice bonus, and at that point, honestly, why should I bother with you?
    You're right in that before that thread, I didn't know VIT contributed to block rate. (That's mostly because my main is WAR, not PLD. In which case, my application of DEF over VIT after a certain amount of VIT is 100% accurate.) However, go back and read that thread. After I got a solid explanation did I argue any more for DEF over VIT? No, I didn't. I even changed my stragey for melds based on that thread. I'll argue with you when you present yourself as arrogant and completely full of yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    Your misunderstandings of this game are such a clusterfuck I almost don't know where to begin, and I'm not your babysitter, I don't care if you ever beat anything in this game. You flat out call us all no-lifers because we are competent and actually progress in this game, and you honestly expect respect back?
    This shit is why I attack you. The only purpose it serves is to get get me to respond emotionally by way of harassment, that's called trolling. You are simply trying to make yourself look better than me by lashing out and attacking me. Guess what though, it's against the TOS, and I report you for it every time. Sometimes it gets me a ban because of my response to it, but whatever. Keep it up and see whare it gets you. I've got to give you credit where credit is due, you're a fantastic troll. You get the response you're looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    You're right in that before that thread, I didn't know VIT contributed to block rate.
    You edited your post so let me respond to this in a post that hopefully you won't report as harassment just because it's correcting you.

    VIT does not contribute to block rate. It contributes to block power, at a 2VIT:1Block ratio. This means, since 1 block is .2% more mitigated damage on an attack that you block, that +10 VIT = an extra 1% damage off of blocked attacks, not counting the 6.66 defense you get as well. Power is slightly better than Rate from gear focus as well since there are a few ways to force or enhance block rate that meld well with the tempo of an endgame fight. For instance, you can get up to 45-50% parsed block rate through divine veil timing alone on Ifrit Extreme if you learn his AI pattern and get in rhythm with him. While Divine Veil is on cooldown, Ifrit is likely to be doing special moves, especially at the end of the fight. Block rate does nothing for you during this time, and block power can shine. Personally, I stop 41~44% of Ifrit's damage with every block, depending on what pants I'm wearing and if I bothered to eat a trapper's quiche instead of an omelette.

    DEX contributes to block rate in the same fashion. Generally, native block rate on bosses is abysmally low by most standards and you manage forced blocks through proper use of your abilities, somewhat negating the bonuses of gearing for block rate.

    Saying you brought WAR advice over to the PLD forum is one more thing I hope lets you self-examine why you post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    You edited your post so let me respond to this in a post that hopefully you won't report as harassment just because it's correcting you.

    VIT does not contribute to block rate. It contributes to block power, at a 2VIT:1Block ratio. This means, since 1 block is .2% more mitigated damage on an attack that you block, that +10 VIT = an extra 1% damage off of blocked attacks, not counting the 6.66 defense you get as well. Power is slightly better than Rate from gear focus as well since there are a few ways to force or enhance block rate that meld well with the tempo of an endgame fight. For instance, you can get up to 45-50% parsed block rate through divine veil timing alone on Ifrit Extreme if you learn his AI pattern and get in rhythm with him. While Divine Veil is on cooldown, Ifrit is likely to be doing special moves, especially at the end of the fight. Block rate does nothing for you during this time, and block power can shine. Personally, I stop 41~44% of Ifrit's damage with every block, depending on what pants I'm wearing and if I bothered to eat a trapper's quiche instead of an omelette.
    Too little too late. Thanks to another poster, I already knew all of this. (Never mind my misquote above regarding block rate vs block power.) At this point it's wasted effort on your part. This response belonged in the other thread, immediately following my post about DEF being better than VIT. Instead you took the opportunity to attack me without making a proper correction.

    I won't report you when you don't make inappropriate posts to attack me. I'm fine with having an open and honest discussion with you, or anyone else here, but your attacks have no place. Contrary to what you obviously think, I'm a pretty reasonable guy. If your post is filled with rage, I'm not going to reason with you, and at that point why should I? Don't come at me thinking you're god's gift to MMOs, I don't care about your opinion of yourself. Come at me with facts not emotion. But at this point, you have a really long way to go to win any respect back that you might have had if you had not attacked me so ferociously.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 09-27-2012 at 12:06 AM.