SP loss end of story.

[Grimm]

SP loss end of story, GIL is worthless, Repairing is just as easy as throwing away gil. Just make us lose SP upon death I even welcome back d-leveling then if you got into a fight you were not ready for you had no option but to run(that's what flee was for). This would also welcome more people to party. Scared of dying you need a tank, healer, ect.. you want to be prepared rather than ''winging it''. I don't want gear damage for dying, that will happen regardless if I die or not. But losing my SP? that is something to fear. thoughts?

[Arcell]

Well hey if you have to have a penalty to make you not be a terrible player this game probably isn't for you.

[Zenaku]

Problem yoshi-p does not want it seem a lot of players don't like the idea of SP lost. MMO players each year that pass want a game that easy more and more.

I agree we need SP lost.


Edit:
@Arcell it's not about that what he said make a lot of sense. When playing FFXI i did not want to die and alway try and do my best. In FFXIV i can care less i just die and run back 500000 times.

[Grimm]

Well hey if you have to have a penalty to make you not be a terrible player this game probably isn't for you.

That's the point. I mostly see people doing leves too high for them dying running back to the mob and finishing it off WITH gear damage in effect. Gear damage does not scare people.

[Akumu]

It's not just about what some hardcore player want. Xp/Sp loss is just a stupid method for a death penalty. It hurts more than than just some kicked in the nuts adrenaline rush you desire. Most people will become scared and paranoid like in XI.

While I made several detailed posts on this matter in another thread I wish not to do the same again. Good luck with your discussion.

P.S. Yoshi-P isn't going to add anything that will result in casuals not playing. Which is why he won't add Xp/Sp loss...

[Shaone]

Losing the battle is enough. Let's look to the future where there may well be instanced, timed content with hard boss battles and entry time restrictions / hard to obtain or expensive pop items. Attempting that when not ready will lose the pop or waste the run.

That should be penalty enough, losing a rank in addition is going to be an extra slap in the face.

OK, right now there is no real incentive not to die, but there is also no hardcore content yet either. But it will come.

[Sojiro]

Never will be too damn soon to see level down again. No thanks, we don't need a stack of penalties piled on you when you die. The ones yoshi-p stated are all the penalties we need.

[Zenaku]

@Grimm Give up on it players like them does not see what SP lost can bring it's a pointless matter. Yoshi-p does not want it so it wont be in the game it's 3/1 on this sadly so i give up hope on SP lost. The MMO is full of casuals players now so i guess become a casuals player or wait to see if they do something else.

[Grimm]

Losing the battle is enough.

The thing is it's not enough. Since when is dying an okay thing? I thought the goal of most games is not to die. But if all they can think of is gear damage and repairs that is never going to change.

[Grimm]

@Grimm Give up on it players like them does not see what SP lost can bring it's a pointless matter. Yoshi-p does not want it so it wont be in the game it's 3/1 on this sadly so i give up hope on SP lost.

Guess you are right it's kinda sad. =/