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    Miradelle's Avatar
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    Miranda Vara
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    Advanced Evolved Mode?

    SQE will not dedicate time to balancing basically twice the amount of jobs as we have now forever. The writing is on the wall that reborn mode will be gone eventually, possibly 9.0 ... at least in the way how it will work in 8.0.

    However, once 9.0 hits, I would like the devs to turn Reborn mode into "Advanced Evolved Mode."

    Why?

    To solve the issue between people wanting a more relaxed, easier-on-the-wrists gameplay mode, and those that want to challenge themselves.

    Why wouldn't this be just like balancing reborn/evolved mode currently?


    Because both Advanced and Regular Evolved mode will use the same design, Evolved will be just a more 'compacted' version.

    I think people would probably be even fine with Evolved and Advanced Evolved doing the same damage, because I don't care what spec others are using, as long as I get to enjoy myself. That being said, if it would end up not being true, I guess it wouldn't be hard to balance the damage so that Evolved does slightly less than Advanced, so that there'd be an incentive for people to try out the harder mode.
    Eitherway, balancing for the Evolved mode wouldn't really matter as much, because most people that want this kind of gameplay do not engage in content where damage actually matters. It still should be viable to clear all content with, though, with the potential exclusion of Ultimates, though I don't personally really care.
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    Are you ready to devolve to the next level with devolved mode?

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    Rui Aii
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Miradelle View Post
    SQE will not dedicate time to balancing basically twice the amount of jobs as we have now forever. The writing is on the wall that reborn mode will be gone eventually, possibly 9.0 ... at least in the way how it will work in 8.0.

    However, once 9.0 hits, I would like the devs to turn Reborn mode into "Advanced Evolved Mode."

    Why?

    To solve the issue between people wanting a more relaxed, easier-on-the-wrists gameplay mode, and those that want to challenge themselves.

    Why wouldn't this be just like balancing reborn/evolved mode currently?


    Because both Advanced and Regular Evolved mode will use the same design, Evolved will be just a more 'compacted' version.

    I think people would probably be even fine with Evolved and Advanced Evolved doing the same damage, because I don't care what spec others are using, as long as I get to enjoy myself. That being said, if it would end up not being true, I guess it wouldn't be hard to balance the damage so that Evolved does slightly less than Advanced, so that there'd be an incentive for people to try out the harder mode.
    Eitherway, balancing for the Evolved mode wouldn't really matter as much, because most people that want this kind of gameplay do not engage in content where damage actually matters. It still should be viable to clear all content with, though, with the potential exclusion of Ultimates, though I don't personally really care.
    I see Evolved Mode a bit differently.

    To me, Evolved Mode looks more like the future direction of the combat system, while Reborn Mode feels more like the classic / regular / old system.

    I do not think having both modes in 8.0 is mainly about creating an easy mode and a hard mode. I think it is more about making the transition safer.

    If something goes wrong with Evolved Mode, players can still fall back to Reborn Mode while the devs adjust and improve the new system.

    But if Evolved Mode succeeds in 8.0, I personally do not expect Reborn Mode to remain long-term in the same way. By 9.0, I would not be surprised if Reborn Mode is removed or heavily changed, and Evolved Mode simply becomes the main system.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I don't really care about challenging my wrists—I'd rather not get carpal tunnel rotations.
    What I care about is engaging and unique jobs mechanics that do interact with the duty I'm doing.

    Currently, both Reborn and Evolve utterly fail at providing this.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao