Please Reconsider Splitting Main and Off-Tank Roles Based on Job

[Mikey_R]

When you look at partial Paladin footage and say the filler combo may become repetitive, that is “feedback.”

ARR Paladin was one combo over and over again, how many people complain that Dark Knight needs another combo? How about healers who want to do more than press the 1 button with the occasional other button. We have so many examples that spamming 1 attack/combo over and over is not the most exciting thing. The only reason you don't really feel it on Bard is because they have many different things to keep track of that you forget the filler is pressing 1 button. This then flies in opposition to:

When I look at the MT/OT direction and say the labels may become restrictive, suddenly that is “not feedback,” it is “questions,” “demands,” or apparently some kind of personal flaw.

Where we have 4 total bullet points and what we have seen from Paladin. We know nothing. You have no idea what an OT kit looks like, you do not know how it is going to handle things, you know nothing. Everything past the bullet points is speculation. There is no feedback to give, just questions to ask.

If you cannot see the difference, that is on you and maybe you should start thinking about what is actually said rather than what you think has been said. You have misquoted me several times on my views, including this one:

Feedback is not limited to finalized systems.

Which is never what I said at all. Again, failing to understand what has been said and the arguments being made does not help you at all.

You are not avoiding assumptions. You are just choosing the most flattering assumption possible and pretending that makes it more mature.

“My assumption that everything is probably fine is reasonable.”
“Your assumption that something could go wrong is premature.”

That is not objectivity. That is optimism wearing a fake mustache.

If that is what you got, you misunderstand my points. I am neutral on anything we haven't seen, which means I am not going to say it is all a bad idea in the same way I am not going to say it is a good idea. I know, novel right.

And the Party Finder point is even weaker.

No, developers cannot personally control every PF listing. Nobody said they could. That was never the argument.

Your argument was to ask the devs to not create community pressure where PLD has to MT and WAR/DRK/GNB have to OT. That is post 138.

Or, how about 'Do not turn MT/OT into another source of Party Finder policing.' in post 142, repeated in 153, 155, 173, and 189.

You are the one who bought this point up, all I have said is, the devs cannot control the playerbase and the playerbase will adapt. I do not see how you can argue with that.

If the system encourages rigidity, the community will not magically become philosophical and flexible. It will do what MMO communities always do: reduce the system into rules, expectations, and exclusion criteria.

This is not dramatic. This is basic MMO behavior.

But is that what you see at the moment? Do people only take specific jobs because they do the most damage? For the most part, no, only if there is a very very clear outlier. Do PF listings always have a barrier and pure healer only? No, they can mix it up depending on the content. The same thing is ging to happen here.

You also keep acting like people are saying the entire system is guaranteed to fail. That is not what is being said.

Again, never said that. Just said do not make assumptions about the system and doom and gloom over those assumptions. Wait for the information to come out and then give proper feedback.

You keep saying “wait and see” as if that is some profound position. It is not.

Unless the neutral position is now classed as 'profound', then no.

The interesting thing about this whole exchange is the fact it started as me saying to not make assumptions about things and then make comments based on that assumption. However, that is exactly what you have been doing to me. Regardless, I really do not care about responding any more, so I won't be.