Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
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I think you are missing the main point.

Nobody here is claiming we already know the final implementation. Of course we do not have the full picture yet. Everyone understands that more details may come in Berlin.

But “we need more information” does not mean players should stop giving feedback on the direction and terminology that was officially presented.

The developers used the labels “Main Tank” and “Off Tank.” Those are not neutral terms. They already carry meaning in the MMO community. If SE intends those terms to mean something softer, more flexible, or completely different from the common understanding, then that needs to be clarified.

Saying “people are adding meaning to it” is strange when the terms themselves already have meaning.

This is exactly how feedback works during development. Players see a direction, identify a possible problem, and raise concerns before the system becomes final. Waiting until everything is already fully implemented is not more rational. It is less useful.

Also, the concern is not simply whether an Off Tank can physically stand in front of the boss and survive. That is an oversimplification of the argument.

The concern is about friction.

Will certain tanks be numerically or mechanically encouraged to hold aggro more than others?
Will certain tanks lose value if they are not being directly attacked?
Will party finder expectations start treating some tanks as “wrong” for MT or OT?
Will fight design reward one category in one position more than the other?

Those are valid concerns based on the terms and the direction shown.

And yes, maybe SE will avoid all of that. Maybe MT and OT will only be loose design flavors with plenty of overlap. If so, great. That is exactly what many of us want.

But asking players not to discuss the potential issues until Berlin is basically saying feedback should only happen after the next marketing presentation. That makes no sense.

The whole point of early concern is to tell the developers:

Please do not make this restrictive.
Please do not lock jobs into positions.
Please do not create community pressure where PLD is expected to MT and GNB/WAR/DRK are expected to OT.
Please make tank identity dynamic, not positional.

So no, the sky is not falling. But pretending terminology does not matter until SE explains everything later is also not a strong argument.

If the system is flexible, they should say that clearly.
If the system is restrictive, players should push back now.

That is not panic. That is feedback.