Playable Lupin - Please, I beg!

[Wolfie407]

Hello to everyone!

I am coming to the forums to officially make my plea to Square about bringing in Lupin as a playable race. While I know it's been stated that they are done with adding races, they did leave a door open for us to give feedback in a possible change in the future. I personally have been wanting this for years, ever since I saw them in Stormblood. Perhaps I am coming forward with this a bit too late but I can no longer sit idle on this topic.

Just for Starters:

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Lupin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOV6vXZyzfc

1. They are a race introduced in Stormblood that were present in multiple zones, primarily in Kugane.
2. There were no Beast Tribe/Allied Society (sorry, I'll always call them Beast Tribe quests) with them.
3. There were a couple very noteworthy Lupin; The Wolf Burglar from the Manderville quest chain and Hakuro Gunji (Whitefang,) the former Centurion under the Garleans who is fiercy loyal to Hien and Doma.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Hakuro_Gunji

4. After the liberation of Doma and Zenos' defeat, we heard absolutely nothing from the Lupin.
5. They were, at one point, in the running to become playable but ultimately lost out to the Hrothgar. They actually have been in concepts for longer than that, if what research I've seen has served correctly. We're talking during the brainstorming state of Au Ra according to this post: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/514581

https://imgur.com/E0iiiaU

6. It would be nice to have a race that has canine features. A second beastial race would be preferable to add more diversity to the mix. I know I could put on werewolf ears on any race and BAM! I have a lupin but it's really not... They are unique enough where they could take on being a new race.
7. There is a lot of love for Wolves in general! While I am not sure if it's true, I have seen the rumor that Yoshi P loves them, especially Torgal!

Pros

• A Second Option for a Beast Race
• More Diversity
• Making a past race relevant again
• Already in the game and not a brand new concept
• Rigging is already completed and all armor will already adjust to model
• Generate more revenue via fantasias and future releases
• Perfect opportunity to expand on lore as a whole and explore origins of this race

Cons

• Requires a rework/update of the model to meet graphical standards
• New Customization must be made to give players the awesome experience of creating a new character. This time, a lupin!
• Will fall into the same pit as Hrothgar and Viera when it comes to headgear and hairstyles.
• Some people may complain about another beast race... You can't win them all.
• Will need to make a female counterpart

[Wolfie407]

Female Lupin

Honestly, following suit of how female Hrothgar were created, the same could be done for female Lupin. Femhroths actually use the rigging and postures of a female Roe while Male Hroths use male Roe rigs. Male Lupin use the rigging of male Au Ra. So with that, female lupin can follow suit however I would not use the same rigging as a female Au Ra. Due to the in lore size of Lupin, I would simply reuse the rigging of the female Roe.

When it comes to the head of Lupin, both male and female would need their adjustments but they are not too far off from one another. The only significant way that can you'll be able to tell a female Lupin from a male lupin (other than the body itself) is due to the fact that females have a slightly slimmer snout and you could make the eyes more feminine.

Hairstyles

Lupin are known not to have haistyles currently. Now, this could change but what I believe should be done is have no hair as a base for both female and male Lupin but still have the option to have hairstyles if they want them. I am honestly perfectly fine with having just a wolf's head and no flowing hair for my female Lupin but I know many people would still want hairstyles.

Customization Categories

• The Two Clans: Following the Hrothgar, one could have fur colors of different browns and what not while the other is more of a greyscale.
• Height
• Bust
• Tail Length
• Tail Shape
• Hairstyle
• Fur Color - Like Hroth, this dictates the fluffy over coat and the hairstyle color.
• Skin Color - Again, like hrothgar, this would be considered the under fur, as I call it.
• Jaw
• Eye Shape
• Iris Size
• Eye Color
• Eye Brows
• Nose
• Fangs
• Other Features - Such as things like eye brow markings, etc, stuff you would see on a wolf. Could give them Torgal-like markings!
• Tattoos
• Tattoo Color
• Face Paint
• Face Paint Color
• Voice

[Jeeqbit]

They did add a werewolf set, which is based on Lupin.

[MayuAmakura]

No, we don't need another furry race. Give us something normal.

[HammAndCheese]

As much as Lupin would be cool I'd rather them use the resources to expand on the current character creator.

[LanceSummers]

No, we don't need another furry race. Give us something normal.

Yes, we need another furry race. Give us something exotic.

[CidHeiral]

I would love playable Lupin but unfortunately there is zero chance of that ever happening since their very unique heads would prohibit them from ever wearing any head gear and probably any hairstyles. I highly doubt the devs would ever want to go through that firestorm again.

If we ever get a new race I do agree it should be something distinctly non-human though, which they could absolutely make work with hats/hairstyles if they're creating it from scratch after sorting that issue with Hrothgar.

[Raim]

Sorry but the last thing we need is another unfinished race played by 1% of the playerbase. I'd rather just just invest their time into the existing race's customization options.

[Wolfie407]

Think about it like this.

This race already exists. Animations are done, including mouth movements. As I said in the thread, they would need to have their heads updated but to be honest, they don't really need hairstyles. They don't have them now so hairstyles could come later since they need to update the head and facial features.

If they were to add any race, they would have to do the exact same things. While I agree that the original races could use more customization, Lupin have been in the talks for years now. In truth, I think they didn't go through with adding them because of the challenge of making a female version since Hrothgar gave a very strong indication of the desire to want males and females. Plus we got two different cat races. I say it's time we got a canine. It does take a while to restructure a head and add everything else to it but, just as I said, every new race needs it, not just lupin.

As far as hairstyles and headgear goes, I'm fine with not having it personally. It will stick true to the original Lupin we currently have in the game. It's a later down the line issue where they can go the same route as viera and hrothgar.

Lore wise, they are already established and have existed for over 2000 years. Where we go next in our adventures could take us to where they first originated. It's not like a race that's being plucked from a different Final Fantasy universe. This race came from FFXIV and it's original. After we liberated Doma, we heard nothing about the Lupin... Storywise they could fit in so easily. Just some food for thought.

[Garruss]

They already said they were not going to add anymore new races to the game. Do you honeslty want another race in the same state that Veria and Hrothgar are still in to this day?