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  1. #1
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    Reptiletc's Avatar
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    Alzrius Nremyn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    Deep Dungeon Roulette

    I feel this has likely been said a million times before, but I truly feel it's time to add a deep dungeon roulette to the game.

    Palace of the Dead has matchmaking for floors 1-100
    Heaven on High has matchmaking for floors 1-30
    Eureka Orthos has matchmaking for floors 1-30
    Pilgrim's Traverse has matchmaking for floors 1-100

    With this many floor sets in the game it's nearly impossible to actually take advantage of the matchmaking system to clear this content without gathering a group manually. This problem gets worse each and every time more deep dungeon content is added, but would be immediately remedied by a roulette option.


    The largest hurdles I can think of would be gear levels and save slots. Gear levels could just hard lock you from queuing into floors you could not otherwise enter normally of course. As for saves, I would suggest a sort of third, placebo save file for all who queue in via the roulette which clears itself off after you leave. This would leave the matchmaking save intact for the one who queued in naturally.

    I would love to see the community input on this since I figure just about everyone has had a similar thought at some point and I know my thoughts alone won't cover every potential issue.
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    One issue that comes to mind right away would be death killing the save. I had considered this and came to the conclusion that just having the ability to get right back into the dungeon is the greater good here.

    Thankfully you wouldn't lose much progress in most of the current deep dungeons since the entry checkpoints are pretty lenient.

    Palace of the Dead allows you to enter on floors 1 or 51
    Heaven on High allows you to enter on floors 1 or 21
    Eureka Orthos allows you to enter on floors 1 or 21
    Pilgrim's Traverse allows you to enter on floors 1, 21, 31, 51, or 71

    So at most you would loose 1-2 floors worth of progress on a save if a wipe occurred in all content outside of Palace of the Dead. But I don't feel anyone is worried about losing much progress in Palace since the dungeon is rather lenient in floors 1-100.
    I think this is a fair trade off for such an increase in accessibility.
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    Last edited by Reptiletc; 04-12-2026 at 04:13 AM.

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    Taka Gabbiani
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Decent idea, if more checkpoints get added to other dungeons. There is the problem of save slots though. Imagine queuing for a roulette with save slots open in PoD, HoH, and PT, but not EO. Do you just not get EO? Do you get a roulette penalty?

    Could the roulette instead be played on a hidden 3rd save file that is never saved anyway? And thus always free?

    Also if I get PT 1-10 or 21-30, lol hooray. Fast brainless run. If I get EO 21-30 I'm going to be slightly annoyed. It's like how sometimes people quit AR roulette if they get Crystal Tower and sometimes people quit if they don't get Crystal Tower.
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