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    Why no Delubrum Reginae Equivalent in Dawntrail?

    Occult Crescent is a complete and utter disappointment. The content has terrible flaws in almost every aspect, and the worst part is that for a majority of the expansion, we only had the South Horn. Not even a Delubrum Reginae equivalent in the middle. Just... Why?
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    Arguably, for large-scale raids we have:
    - Chaotic
    - South Horn's Forked Tower
    - North Horn's normal raid
    - North Horn's high-end raid

    In comparison, Shadowbringers had:
    - Delubrum Reginae (Savage)
    - Delubrum Reginae
    - Castrum Lacus Litore
    - Dalriada

    So it's worked out rather similar.
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    The 10 people making the game couldn't find the time for it.
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    I guess OP didn't find Forked Tower.
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    Midcore is when you take a look at an Ultimate, nod along sagely to a guide and decide to do it when you get 12 months of uninterrupted vacation, which is to say: never.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I think at this point 0blivion has decided to play forum villain, until perhaps the Exarch cloak becomes available.

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    People complain when they are too formulaic and then complain when they don't follow the formula exactly. It's hard to be a FFXIV dev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    People complain when they are too formulaic and then complain when they don't follow the formula exactly. It's hard to be a FFXIV dev.
    The Bozja series had 3 Normal Raids and 1 Savage Raid.

    Occult Crescent will have 2 "Savage" Raids and 1 Normal Raid. It's really not ideal... This is supposed to be midcore content, and Square Enix continues to only appeal to hardcore raiders.
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    The devs simply forgot they made Bozja, maybe in a few years when they make new field content they'll find the design document for it again? :v

    Also,
    Dawntrail:
    - Chaotic (High end)
    - South Horn's Forked Tower (High end)
    - North Horn's normal raid (Alliance raid level? if it even happens.)
    - North Horn's high-end raid (High end)

    Shadowbringers:
    - Delubrum Reginae (Savage)
    - Delubrum Reginae (Alliance raid)
    - Castrum Lacus Litore (Alliance raid)
    - Dalriada (Alliance raid)

    It simply has to be bait to say these expansions ended up "similar" in this regard. You can like it more one way or the other, but casuals ate good for ShB.
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    Last edited by Bellsong; 04-11-2026 at 03:50 PM.

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    I liked OC and I don't do any high-end content either.

    Then I find over the decade that the one downside is that Yoshi-P and the devs don't like to repeat content types apart from, like, the basic themes of Field Ops existing, and once it's done, it's over. They might revamp it many years down the line so it's not totally dead, but each new patch they are always talking about working on a new novel idea which may or may not be great, but they are going to go for it either way like the Chaotic Raids and FT1.

    So will we eventually see Bozja 2.0, maybe or maybe not, like it depends on however SE feels like in a few years, so it's hard to tell.
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    There is a DR equivalent

    It's just a shame they've been going the route more akin to higher-end difficulty, than something with generally more longevity, and reason to play across the expansion that doesn't boil down to relying on Discord, e.g., attachment to relics in the same way that you would run it e.g., for Raw Emoticons and Timeworn Artefacts.

    Bit of a comedic lapse in design, IMO....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    People complain when they are too formulaic and then complain when they don't follow the formula exactly. It's hard to be a FFXIV dev.
    I mean you can follow the same content structure but still add something new that does shake up the formula, and change how people interact with the content, e.g., from Anemos/Pagos to Pyros/Hydatos, and then Eureka to Bozja. Fundamentally, it's still an exploratory zone, but you're interacting quite a bit differently

    It's actually sad that I have to say this....
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-11-2026 at 10:05 PM.

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    There's Forked Tower, and we're getting another one in 7.55.
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    Bring back 6.0 Dragoon.

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