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    Tank invulns

    Make Superbolide & Hallowed Ground 4 min CD's.
    Thanks.
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    Posts like this are why jobs got homogenized. Whether that's a good thing or not, I'll leave for others to comment.

    It does lead to some communication, such as who will invuln first, when we only need very little of that even to get through Savage as it is.

    I do think the actual benefit of invincibility is overblown and that SE value it too highly. Anyone that has used Blackest Night a lot on Dark Knight knows how it can make you feel invincible for a while on a 15 second basis, leaving few-second gaps where you're vulnerable. With invulns only lasting around 10 seconds, it's not going to be overpowered in any kind of way as long as the cooldown is a minute or more, because of the way bosses have mechanic, after mechanic, after mechanic.
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    I feel a big point, and what OP is likely getting to, is that a supermajority of players don't use invuls at all, and they are primarily used to cheese TBs that normally require swaps or multiple players, with that in mind, nothing but the actual CD length matters, and WAR is disproportionally benefited by having the shortest cooldown, a good example this expansion was EX2, that had enough time between TBs that a WAR could take them both without ever needing to swap, while any other Tank would need to swap.
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    So, is Living Dead batter than Hallowed Ground and Superbolide that it gets to keep it's 5 minute cooldown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    So, is Living Dead batter than Hallowed Ground and Superbolide that it gets to keep it's 5 minute cooldown?
    The answer is "OP doesn't play DRK or otherwise forgot that it exists".
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The answer is "OP doesn't play DRK or otherwise forgot that it exists".
    Just like CS3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The answer is "OP doesn't play DRK or otherwise forgot that it exists".
    I just forgor. I play DRK once in a while, but not as consistent as PLD/GNB.
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    Paladin is already crazy right now. It doesn't need to be better.
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    Nah. I think all tanks but PLD needs to lose their invuln :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Nah. I think all tanks but PLD needs to lose their invuln :^)
    I agree with this. Either that or some other tanks can use them with a lot of per-requisities and maybe even sacrifices. Like what if Warrior needed to spend 100 fury for a Holmgang?.
    As it is, they are too boring.

    So many mechanics are just cheesed with Invulns, but these are on *hard* fights. Fights we shouldn't be needing to resort to it. it's boring. Half the tankbusters in Savage and Extreme I don't even get to do properly because lol invuln.
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