Potions: When will they be useful?

[Babydoll]

I hope they fix the cool down timer for PVP...and make them actually useful. I never, ever use them. I use the MP one rarely though lol

[Dawiichan]

Potions right now can be very useful. In ifrit extreme I used to carry around a few mega-potions since 600 HP can easily make the difference between life and death. Mega-ethers are also really nice since they have a decently low CD and help with fights where you mana-burn. Elixers are great for paladin since it can give them a lot of enmity through the heal and also help their MP in an MP intensive fight such as ifrit where you heal yourself many times. Nerve drops and maddening potions have made it so that a WHM can use benediction on a party which are all at yellow HP after the paladin pops hallowed ground and doesn't steal hate. Potions can be used effectively in multiple ways (specially the Str and Int potions to increase damage output).

The usefulness of lower tier potions is pretty much only the reduced cost.

[Kinseykinz]

The problem is potions aren't supposed to give a long-lasting benefit. They are supposed to be an 'emergency' item or a special that does something like help with 'spike' damage for a short time. That said, I think SE needs to re-evaluate the recast timers or potency on some, not necessarily all potions,remedies, elixirs etc.

Potions/Elixirs -I believe the recast time on these is probably okay. However, they should give better benefits. These should be solely for 'Oh POOP!' moments, so it's okay in my opinion if a Potion healed your average level 20and below, ungeared character to full once, a High Potion maybe level 30 and under Mega-potion 40 and under and Elixir's the 50's...or close to it. But kept the timer (maybe even lengthen the timer a bit for the higher level potions). This way, they don't truely replace the Healer class/mp refresh skills etc, but they still have some in-game value.

Ethers should follow the same logic but give back maybe 50% mp based on level of potion and player level. Lastly, potions and Ethers should be 'tiered' sorta like food is so that a low-ranked player benefits more from a low ranked potion than a high ranked one.

Throat Drops (and similar items) -Really the timer is TOO long on these items. I should be able to use throat drops several times if needed in the same Boss battle. Sure, whm's have Esuna, but it's single target (unless Sacred Prism is up) and it's timer is a tad long to be able to single target more than 2 people in a decent time span....plus, in order to cast Esuna, the whm needs to not be silenced in the first place. A compromise would be a recast timer shortened to double the natural Esuna timer OR making it that occasionally the throat drops fail.

I think the Stat based potions actually do work fairly well and are nice perks atm. I believe the issue the WHM had with the Nerve Drops is that you need to use them BEFORE the blinking hate, not after...but not 100% sure on this.

[Molly_Millions]

I think the Stat based potions actually do work fairly well and are nice perks atm. I believe the issue the WHM had with the Nerve Drops is that you need to use them BEFORE the blinking hate, not after...but not 100% sure on this.

That's correct, if you get blinking hate as mage, you screwed up. Nerve drops won't help that.

[Orophin]

I think an elixir should heal you to full with a very long cooldown. (20-30 mins since no fights really take that long) I don't know if this would break game balance, but in the traditional sense this is what an elixir did. The only downside to this is, as other posters mentioned, they will become a necessity and not an "oh shit" type item. Once a BLM runs out of MP and convert isn't ready, they'll just pop an elixir and get right back to it.

[Tatsuguy]

you need str potion for ifrit extreme and potions help a shit ton at 13 nails lol.

[Shadowedge]

The only potion that is even halfway useful is Ironwill Ungeant, as it gives us the effect of Shell, which SE saw fit to deprive Conjurer of casting.

Actually, conjurer has a trait that gives protect the effect of defense bonus AND magic defense bonus. So a conjurer / WHM at the appropriate level has both protect and shell rolled into one spell.

[Jinrya-Geki]

I like Elixirs :3

If only they came in a grape flavor!

[Chinook]

Potions are fine as it imho. Stat-enhancing ones most notably.

If they make them more potent or remove cooldowns, the game will have to completely be rebalanced and they will become a necessity, which creates another problem.

[GinTama]

im guessing potions are getting reworked too...