Make dungeons fun again

[xdandeman]

I started Endwalker and found the Dungeons have become "Dance Dance Revolution" where you have to learn a dance routine to progress. Even with NPCs and you tap dance with them to get to the magic spot, even before the warning is given, you still take a hit or a wipe. I guess that some players like the challenge while the casual player is just trying to have fun. Diablo solved this by allowing you to select difficulty. I don't want to have to spend time reviewing Youtube to play the game. And while 13 year old girls may like "Dance Dance Revolution" I don't. I was thinking of quitting but the FC raid leader said the end game raids are fun so I'll finish Downtrail, but I won't be buying any more expansions if the dungeons are just silly time waisters, how can any one have fun if they have to focus on the ground and be ready to dance.

[Valence]

That's unfortunately the direction they have chosen for their game to stand out in comparison to other MMOs, and it shows the higher level you go...

[Canadane]

Variant style should be the default for all dungeons imo

[Valence]

Variant is DDR galore as much as everything else. They're even removing trash from the more difficult versions to make sure it's all about DDR bosses.

[Canadane]

It's better than the "hallway to boss x3" than we have now.

[JerryBerrry]

I started Endwalker and found the Dungeons have become "Dance Dance Revolution" where you have to learn a dance routine to progress. Even with NPCs and you tap dance with them to get to the magic spot, even before the warning is given, you still take a hit or a wipe. I guess that some players like the challenge while the casual player is just trying to have fun. Diablo solved this by allowing you to select difficulty. I don't want to have to spend time reviewing Youtube to play the game. And while 13 year old girls may like "Dance Dance Revolution" I don't. I was thinking of quitting but the FC raid leader said the end game raids are fun so I'll finish Downtrail, but I won't be buying any more expansions if the dungeons are just silly time waisters, how can any one have fun if they have to focus on the ground and be ready to dance.

Sadly girls toda won’t know what Dance Dance Revolution is.

[Torquil]

“Before the warning is given”

Sometimes the ground indicator is not the warning. Examples of forms the warning may take: The name of the enemy skill (very common), an enemy animation (not common in dungeons), an icon on your or an group mates

[ZozoEbonscale]

I'm content with this dungeon style. I know what I'm getting, and I wont get disappointed, and I know how long a dungeon will last.

[xdandeman]

And from what I see downtrail is even worse, I guess they had too many subs and needed to shed casual players who don't want to study youtube and learn the dance moves. They sure got rid of my sub, all those hours of watching movies, guess I can go to youtube and finish the movie there.

[Catastrophe573]

Are you saying that dungeons require study or a guide? Because they definitely do not. If anything the usual complaint from the community is that dungeons are too easy to steamroll.

While it is true that normal dungeons are as scripted as DDR, they're also very forgiving as well. Imagine DDR where you can just miss half the arrows. Plus the telegraphs are large and obvious. (Which makes the dungeons unsatisfying to repeat for expert players, which causes the complaint of "too easy" when the problem is actually "not engaging".)

But this is by design. Dungeons are entry-level, casual content for story mode. Harder fights usually have slightly randomized scripts, personal responsibility mechanics, dps checks, and tighter execution requirements.