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  1. #1
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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100

    Change Energy Drain. (SCH)

    Yep you hear it change it as a 30 sec or 60 sec cd off global cooldown to press with no ressource attach to it with 2 stacks. Reasoning it's easy, a lot party finder sch are too griefter to hold aetherflow for defensive purpose. I saw it on my M9S-M10S-M11S runs on my alt. Hearing a sch say ''we need party mits'' when all party mits are cds and only person who didnt use his, the scholar, it's such a great feeling of griefting the party.

    Enough is enough. I don't care it's a player issue or my theme job, it's show time to time on every expansion this ability since is release playerbase is too dumb to use it properly. Change it as no ressource attach to it will fix the skill issue.
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    Last edited by Zarkovitch; 03-15-2026 at 05:43 AM.

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    Carighan's Avatar
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Wat? I don't even the whole point. That someone can misuse their CDs is something you want to... fix? For all classes I take it, right? Not just Scholar. No more misusing any CD, offensive or defensive, the game does it all for you?
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  3. #3
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Hey guys what if we just destroy the thing that holds the last shreds of decent healer design together because I, who am decidedly not a SCH player, don’t like getting “griefed” in PF

    Wanna present your favourite job for me to carve off fun points
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    The last shred of good healer design and it's an unupgraded arcanist skill with no potency and an unscaled self-heal.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Really says alot about healers doesn’t it
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    "Hi devs, I hate that people can make mistake. Can you please turn all jobs to 1 button spam and traits that uses cooldowns automatically?"

    We're really reaching even greater height of apathy here, eh... not that I blame the OP for that, lol.
    (5)

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Carighan Maconar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Oh I blame OP for that. It's that entire type of player why we have all the issues with modern MMORPG class design (not just here, in all MMOs) to begin with.
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Machinist Lv 100
    the mindset that anything that feels like a dps loss is a sin sure has been cancer to this game
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Sage Lv 100
    Funny thing, the devs did exactly what OP asks for back in 5.0, by removing Energy Drain entirely (and thereby removing the incentive to spend Aetherflow on Offensive actions instead of Defensive/Healing actions).

    The Job's design fell apart at the seams without ED to act as a 'spare stack dump', and many players complained that SCH felt terrible when you were forced to choose between overcapping stacks, or overhealing via spending stacks on un-needed Lustrates, and so the devs rushed to re-add Energy Drain.

    We've been through this song and dance before. SGE barely gets away with 'dump stacks on overhealing' by hamfistedly tying your MP economy to it, and even then it feels pretty bad to throw Druocholes at yourself just for the 700MP. Same with WHM, purposely overhealing with Lilies to prepare a Misery for the 2min window, but somehow it's only SCH that is getting blasted by OP
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; 03-16-2026 at 03:35 AM.

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    Medim Azurarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Funny thing, the devs did exactly what OP asks for back in 5.0, by removing Energy Drain entirely (and thereby removing the incentive to spend Aetherflow on Offensive actions instead of Defensive/Healing actions).

    The Job's design fell apart at the seams without ED to act as a 'spare stack dump', and many players complained that SCH felt terrible when you were forced to choose between overcapping stacks, or overhealing via spending stacks on un-needed Lustrates, and so the devs rushed to re-add Energy Drain.

    We've been through this song and dance before. SGE barely gets away with 'dump stacks on overhealing' by hamfistedly tying your MP economy to it, and even then it feels pretty bad to throw Druocholes at yourself just for the 700MP. Same with WHM, purposely overhealing with Lilies to prepare a Misery for the 2min window, but somehow it's only SCH that is getting blasted by OP
    we've been back to folks asking to have it removed again since EW, which moved the mp recovery to Aetherflow and Energy Drain's become freely weavable from the 1.5s Broil. In ShB it functioned as a pseudo-mobility/weaving resource as RuinII + ED used to add up to the potency of a Broil.

    ShB rightfully gets a lot of shit for the damage done to the role but I really feel EW's changes shouldn't be downplayed as much as it does (not accusing you of doing so but certain communities tend to).
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    Last edited by Azurarok; 03-16-2026 at 05:03 AM.

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