[dev1021] Skill Points and EXP values are way too low.

[DarkOrca]

The problem I see is that it becomes a cycle when the leves difficulty is adjustable because most people will choose the easiest route (ie: solo) because of whatever reasons, then eventually less people want to team up, more choose to solo...etc etc. Leves are anti-social, and they're killing the community.

They should separate leves vs regular leveling up with mobs. Make one easy and doable for solo and the other one challenging but requires teamwork and more rewarding for those who want efficiency.

[DeadRiser]

The problem I see is that it becomes a cycle when the leves difficulty is adjustable because most people will choose the easiest route (ie: solo) because of whatever reasons, then eventually less people want to team up, more choose to solo...etc etc. Leves are anti-social, and they're killing the community.

They should separate leves vs regular leveling up with mobs. Make one easy and doable for solo and the other one challenging but requires teamwork and more rewarding for those who want efficiency.

I just got off a couple minutes ago.. we were duoing billys at r19. It was fun and the sp was great. It was nice to grind for once and not focus on behests and leves.

What still pisses me off is fatigue. It is SOOOOO annoying

[Laughlyn]

Here's how "Bad" leveling is... lol ( Sarcasm )

Video Link of me & Friend Speed-Leveling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weKO-S9OLw4

I find this sp/exp whining to be utter nonsense.
And ya we both have atleast 1x rank 50 class on our main characters but try deny the SP in that video clip.
You what you got, Guardian aspect & leve-links.

Besides we did this in our starter gear, and sorry for crappy editing.
But i tried to have the /clock command up so you could see how fast we started leveling.

This continous all the way up to rank 50 if... IF you put some effort into your character.
Oh ya..we also took a few 1-2minutes breaks not accounted for in the video clip.

[Jabo]

A suggestion for zumi, if he/she is reading.

Your DEX is waaaay to high. Even i have less DEX with my 50 physical.
I would suggest leaving it at 40. If you have acc issues i would recomend wearing Acc Rings.
I would put much more into VIT. It's not important for the damage cut, but more for your overall HP.
STR is a somehow usefull too, but i wouldnt go with a 1:1 Ratio, since youre playing Gladiator.

And, as said, use constantly Aegis Boom and Phalanx.
With a good Shield (Scutum) you can Phalanx after EVERY hit you get.
When you use Aegis Boom you get even healed with every hit AND can use Phalanx.

Learning the strenghts of your class is very important and the Gladiator has ton of it to make up for his low (basic) damage output.

Also what wasnt mentioned yet.
Rank 20 Camps could be better than Rank 30 ones. The enemys are weaker, but you can play with a higher difficulty. Rank 20 camp can be attractive even after rank 30.

I played GLD too and i never got so little SP even pre-dobble-sp-patch.

[Chory]

The thing is, you dont really need a party for low rank leves. Can easily get 500-1000SP/kill soloing leves 1-10 and you need like 5-15k SP/rank. The higher your rank is, you need more and more SP/rank, and you get less and less SP/kill soloing (both GL and regular mobs). Lets reward players with 200ish SP/kill from leves 1-10, and like 700ish SP/kill at ranks 40+.

[Shiyo]

Here's how "Bad" leveling is... lol ( Sarcasm )

Video Link of me & Friend Speed-Leveling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weKO-S9OLw4

I find this sp/exp whining to be utter nonsense.
And ya we both have atleast 1x rank 50 class on our main characters but try deny the SP in that video clip.
You what you got, Guardian aspect & leve-links.

Besides we did this in our starter gear, and sorry for crappy editing.
But i tried to have the /clock command up so you could see how fast we started leveling.

This continous all the way up to rank 50 if... IF you put some effort into your character.
Oh ya..we also took a few 1-2minutes breaks not accounted for in the video clip.

Yeah this, and leveling in general is really silly. Look at what you're actually doing in the video too, you're basically pressing 1-2 buttons and 1-2 shotting every mob. OH MAN SO DIFFICULT! The mobs are a complete joke to you, and are giving you INSANE amounts of sp and leveling you at an insane rate. Why the hell is this game so easy? This is a complete joke, and a disgrace to MMO's everywhere.

Bring back the skill, teamwork, dedication etc involved in FF11's battle system/leveling back in early 2003 please

Right now this game is probably the easiest MMO on the market, lol?

[Laughlyn]

Well i agree with Shiyo, but well theres a Major leap in difficulty if you select 4 star & try Duo that.

They really should balance the difficulty option a tiny bit better than it currently offers.

It's no wonder new players might pick 3-4 star and get their ass whooped & then lowers
it to 1 & completly miss out the great SP they could have gotten at 3 star.

Advice to new players, Trial & error is your friend and dont be afraid to get you ass whooped by a Wharf Rat.
Get back up & spank that bad boy!

[Drexel]

Last night in my leve link pt we got give or take 65k sp in 3.5 hours in Broken Water and Halatali, well and one leve in Nophica Wells, also there was a 20 min break in there. Thats 20k/hr. SP is far from low like its been said you just have to do it rite. Also my grind group has exceded our leve sp/hr if you go to the rite grind spots for your level. Were getting 22k at blue fog just the other day.

[Fleur]

I agree that leves are "too" rewarding when linked in groups. And personally, I would like it if they would increase/tweak the SP for solo'd leves --IMHO they give a bit too much at lower ranks and not enough at high ranks. It shouldn't be super fast to level doing leves solo, but nor should it be painfully slow. For example, I got 60K yesterday running leves with my linkshell. But in the days before, I had solo'd about the same leves and had netted a whopping 10K and it was a lot harder and slower.

Don't get me wrong, I love getting a huge chunk of SP in an evening. But I am trying to keep in mind that leves are meant to be casual and solo content, not the be-all end-all of party SP'ing. Let the solo'ers have their leves for decent, worthwhile SP and the party players have their SP parties for better SP. And there are so many interesting places to see and mobs to SP on outside of leves! I certainly hope all those efts and crabs aren't just there for decoration, if so then someone needs to have a chat with SE's artists.

[Shiyo]

Well i agree with Shiyo, but well theres a Major leap in difficulty if you select 4 star & try Duo that.

You also have to remember SP is capped to +10 your rank or whatever, so making something more difficult on purpose doesn't even increase the SP you gain. The "capped" mobs difficulty for max SP are actually REALLY weak mobs that require no thought or skill to even kill. It's a really horrible system. :/