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  1. #21
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    Abraxai's Avatar
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    Avacyn Moonsilver
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    Ridiculous. Leves shouldnt be such a big source of EXP/SP that you only do them for it and nothing else. Actual parties should dominate this game and leve's should be a side bonus. Nothing more.

    Anybody who disagrees is an idiot.

    Introduce an EXP/SP cap per kill on leve mobs.
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  2. #22
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    Speeral Olbodra
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    Abrax,

    I do agree on some leve's sp might be a bit high but when linking it allows one to save time. For instance you are in a party of four. Do you really want to do the same 4 leve one after another instead of just link the and get the combined sp in one leve you would from 4? Also it saves GA using it once instead of four times allowing you to use it once and not four times allowing the player to maximize the benefits of the system.

    I also like the lave system because it does promote players to group to maximize the results of the leve. I think the cap if there was one should be 1k sp if it was to be limited, but I am on the side of not limiting the sp gained from leve's.

  3. #23
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Leve's only get HIGH sp at higher ranks when you LINK them, meaning doing more than one leve at a time. having 4 links (the maximum) means you are doing 5 leves at once, which should and will give tons of sp.
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  4. #24
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    Blank Stormm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speeral View Post
    Well after checking out your character I do see some deficiencies in stats and skills. Here is what i propose if you want to be able to do devlit leve's solo and much more easilly. I did the one you did at nanawa last night Corpus Adamance. I will first recommend you use the next few leve resets and saved GA for leveling ur thaum and conj to 20 for the heals. you're short on the ability to cure yourself so when impish incantations hits you do not have enough cure to regen urself to a safe health level.

    I am currently levelling 3 classes to 30 and my pug is also 28 almost 29. I know what happened and I will walk the leve through with you to ensure you can get maxiumum sp out of it. Corpus Adamance solo with GA at your rank 2 star is easily doable I did it last night and I have zero HQ gear just a more available skill set then you.

    When you launch this leve have just protect in your bar with Sacrifice 2 and Cure 2 set that will allow for fast heals when needed after impish incantations. Also to enhance your dmg I would level Arch to 10 for raging strike as well I see your shield skill is rank 20+ take Shield bash and Aegis Boon and add that to your bar and 1 or 2 good weapon skills. that should have you with all the tools you need to beat this leve from a skill and stat side.


    Now onto maximizing your exp and SP from this leve. At 2 star you can easily do this with what I proposed above and in no time beat it. Now when you start the leve make sure to attack the wisps first that way you can get the brightash they drop. Then once you have the brightash use it on the ladybugs to detect if they are ladybugs or devlits if not a devlit then attack it and kill it. If the devlit pops then run away from it until it disengages you and then leave that one devlit for last and kill all the other leve mobs and then the devlit last. This will ensure maximum sp for the leve.


    I do strongly urge you to level both conj and thm to 20 first and archer to 10 take the few skills you need and you won't have a single problem. That leve alone should net 3-5k sp if done properly.
    If after that you still have problems I would asses how you play the game.

    also check out my character on the lodestone Speeral Olbodra you can see I have all the base classes to about 20 and a few over. This has been instrumental in helping me have higher stats and more skills/tools available to me as I level.

    edited for spelling
    Zumi, this is a good guideline for you, also I want to add to this is get as much guild mark rewards for your conjurer so you can have the abilities such as Fastcast (which allows you to heal quickly, i think its a 20% increase in casting). If you want to really be uber in soloing, I suggest that you rank up THM as well to 20 so you can buy the ability Firm Conviction (can be bought with THM guild marks, rank up Pugilist to 20 and buy the ability Prime Conditioning (Increases healing effects on you by 10% - can be bought with PUG guild marks).

    Please note that these abilities can be used in any DOWS jobs.

    Sure it will take you sometime but its all worth it, this is pretty much how my leveling style is.

    In FFXIV world, the more you have access on many abilities, the uber you are especially when soloing. Im currently working on my Archer, which is currently rank 25, but since I have alot of access to many abilities, I am able to combine them. My DD ability is beyond my expectations when I solo. I still use warped arrows but my DD output with raging strike+ferocity (Lancer)+multishot is amazing. In addition to that I use Protect(Conjurer)+Stygian Spikes(THM)+Sacrifice 2(THM)+Cure 2(Conjurer)+Defender(Pugilist) so I never have to run out of MP and I can survive longer on IT mobs.

    This is the main feature that I love about FFXIV -- the horizontal leveling, it allows the players to be more creative in terms of mixing up the abilities from all the jobs to pimp out their toon's performance. Unlike in FFXI where the subjob abilities are capped.
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  5. #25
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    Arc Jurado
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    One thing I would suggest, that I haven't seen put up yet is that if your linkshell is dead try to find another one. There are recruitment threads for each server on pretty much every FFXIV forum including this one. Shout in populated areas like Ul'dah that you're looking for an LS and you may very well get an invite right there. I've found having a good LS is almost necessary in this game. I know if I wasn't with my LS I'd have a much harder time playing FFXIV.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    And, you can carry up to 8 linkshells. I myself am in 5 LS's.
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  7. #27
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    As a group of 4 we do 6 Leves and get around 80k SP (100k if we do doubles)in 2 hours if we rush through. We do Dunesfolk, Cracked Up, Necro Ranine at Broken Water. The head to Nophica and do Levinshower, then it's off to Casseopia Hollow for Necro Inferno, then we finish up with Cedarwood and Necro Lightsome. We do those leves from R30-R50 every reset and get amazing SP very quickly (over 1k per kill for Dunesfolk). Only problem is because the SP is so good it makes all other SP seem like a waste of time so that can be annoying.

    I really think they need to fix partying and grinding and then make leves be the casual content that it was supposed to be. Leve were supposed to be for people who didn't have much time so they could do them and get a quick boost but what has happened now is that they are so good when you do them in a group it makes them the only thing worth doing.
    That's not fair what ya'll are doing though.. You are purposely abandoning missions to get max sp every 36 hours. That's not too much fun IMO. They shouldn't let you repeat a mission you 'failed' previously. THAT'S what they need to fix.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speeral View Post
    Abrax,

    I do agree on some leve's sp might be a bit high but when linking it allows one to save time. For instance you are in a party of four. Do you really want to do the same 4 leve one after another instead of just link the and get the combined sp in one leve you would from 4? Also it saves GA using it once instead of four times allowing you to use it once and not four times allowing the player to maximize the benefits of the system.

    I also like the lave system because it does promote players to group to maximize the results of the leve. I think the cap if there was one should be 1k sp if it was to be limited, but I am on the side of not limiting the sp gained from leve's.
    Are you SURE that's how it works? I thought you just get the rewards of your leve if someone else starts the same one but you don't leve link. Doesn't it just get rid of yours?
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  9. #29
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Are you SURE that's how it works? I thought you just get the rewards of your leve if someone else starts the same one but you don't leve link. Doesn't it just get rid of yours?
    You get the completion reward but say one person starts, and another person links, you still get the combined SP of the two, just like they do. Even if you didn't link.
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  10. #30
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    It is solo friendly, by way that you CAN solo past r12 unlike FFXI. That doesnt mean soloing is the best option. It is just better than sitting around in town waiting for a group.

    I also see that she gained only 1695 sp from 4 R30 leves at r28. I That seems pretty exaggerated, because I get over 200sp per kill soloing nanawa or nophica leves with my R29 MRD, easily getting over 1000sp per leve. When I solo a R30 Leve at one star with my R37 Pugilist, however, I get around what she get from a single leve.

    I of course only solo a leve when it is almost time for leve reset and it is already old from last reset.
    Maybe OP has done some necrologos.
    If we are too lucky with pages (and don't find monsters) the exp is really low.

    Anyway party and behest is the way to follow, as already stated.
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    I have 10,000 needles,
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