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    OliverQ's Avatar
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    Olyvar Queen
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100

    Savage loot system needs improvement

    The loot system for high end raiding in this game needs a major overhaul. My job needs 6 total drops from M10S (3 left side, 3 glaze). I got a single item like 6 weeks ago and haven't gotten a single upgrade since. I lose every roll every week I clear.

    Why do Normal Raids restrict armor tokens to 1 person per item per week, but a single person can win every roll for Savage loot while the other 7 people get nothing?

    And no, books are not a solution. It takes 21 weeks of books for me to get my M10 gear. Items cost too many books for that to be useful for anything beyond getting that last item or 2.

    Savage raids should switch to a token system with 1 drop per person per week and make them generic tokens so you can buy whatever item from that raid you need with your token. If you clear a Savage raid, you should be able to get at least 1 item per week. Going 6+ weeks with zero loot wins is a terrible system.
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    Last edited by OliverQ; 03-10-2026 at 08:10 AM.

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    Alicie's Avatar
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    Alicie Wonder
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 52
    It is not only savage, in general shared loot model in games is highly obsolete and all loot should be personalized.
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    If the story is so good, why does story skip never leaves bestsellers of FFXIV Store?

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It's certainly worth it if they try for a Savage tier to have the Alliance Raid system where you can get one drop a week. If it doesn't work, they can go back to the old system.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    They should double the amount of loot from savage coffers, and remove the "attempt" lockout so if you don't win anything, you can keep trying until you do.
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  5. #5
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    Hoolagun Thesecond
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I made such a similar post a while back that i had to double check this wasnt mine.

    It's depressing, this system. And it favors statics more than pf.

    The problem is these words fall on deaf ears.
    And unless you translate and post on JP forums, this will just be a comment section instead of a feedback/suggestion.

    They promote, "you can play all jobs" but gearing them causes has so much resistance.

    You should certainly, not lose your weekly lockout if you did not drop amything.
    Guaranteeing at least one item.
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  6. #6
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Normal raids exchange for gear same ilvl as crafted. It's meant for savage prep so it's not time-gated a significant amount; you can get it all pretty quick.

    I do think they made a book downgrade system at some point? Or was that only a specific tier? That would allow you to downgrade M12S and M11S books.
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  7. #7
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    For real and a newbie system for players who never try it this content. Savage relied so much with a dumb system for static. As I am a raid leader can see the flaw due I'm using my alt on pf. The system is really bad for pf players but ok for static.
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  8. #8
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    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Apparently, they expect absolutely everybody would do the following: roll everything one by one from left to right, and leave immediately if at least one item is won per floor + no loot scooting. Break the norm? Off to hall of shame you go. GMs then pretend they never knew the existence of such external burn list because everybody are nice people!

    /s
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 03-10-2026 at 03:58 PM.

  9. #9
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    Kahnha's Avatar
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    Character
    E' R-rok
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    It's not only gear... the lotto system is just so bad lol

    if you get a clear of a savage raid it should give you one piece of gear for your class a book and then the coffers are rolls I don't get why they didn't just do that

    the housing lotto system is just stupid 250 people bidding on one plot is just so egregious.... take the feedback of the people paying for the game...
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  10. #10
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    Character
    Knives Jonquil
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 100
    I would be more interested in doing Savage content if the reward system wasn't so unreliable and needlessly combative.
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