Thread: 8.0 speculation

Originally Posted by Cilia

Your criticism was that Thancred and Urianger were bad judges of character for putting their weight behind Zoraal Ja; they did not, and considering the man they did support (Koana) is a perfectly capable leader and shrewd politician, I really can't agree doing so was an exercise in bad judgment. Was he a bit hasty to try pushing new technology on Tural? Maybe. But despite limited screentime he ultimately turned out to be humble enough to grasp his shortcomings and held down the fort while we went traipsing around Heritage Found, so.
I'm not saying Dawntrail's writing was perfect, just that this exact point has no merit. I agree the writing around the Scions was clunky, but that seems to have been a problem with everyone not named Wuk Lamat (and to a lesser extent Sphene in her triplicate forms).

I directly mentioned believability while also noting that they would not partner with Zoraal Ja. My presupposition could be true since they did not, in fact, choose him. As for Koana its not insane, its just still unbelievable. I remember them getting the letter and listening to their interactions and I didn't buy it. Yes, their relationship to Koana is innocuous, tepid, unoffensive, whatever you want to call it. But its so much of those things that its like, anyone could have been his allies and the result would be mostly the same.

Like when Urianger hangs out with Lopporits or, to use DT, when Y'Shtola teams up with Shale, that's quintessentially their characters. There wasn't enough inherent relevance or enough dialogue to show me this team up was necessary or even uniquely useful to either party.

For example, maybe this resonates with Thancred because he had a tough dad with high expectations. Let them share anything other than being good natured and wanting to help others. That's like. Almost everyone in this game.