Thread: 8.0 speculation

Originally Posted by Cilia

And you may be misremembering, but Thancred and Urianger threw their lot in with Koana, not Zoraal Ja.

Lmao, I did mix this up. However, I'd still level the same criticism. I think there was maybe one single campfire scene of this group genuinely interacting. Koana isn't written in a way that makes their partnership especially compelling. They don't actually experience much together that helps either side grow in a meaningful way. That's not to say they don't experience anything at all together, it's just not very interesting and there's not much for Urianger or Thancred to contribute or draw from after the fact. And this is my issue with DT. If you're going to have Urianger or Y'shtola in the story, maybe give them an arc where they look after Gulool Ja or something and offer their own unique wisdom to get him through his suffering. If Alphinaud isn't going to be interacting with and advising Wuk Lamat (which he should have done a lot more of given his unique experience in geopolitics), then leave him behind in Radz-at-Han setting up that alliance that happens later. Maybe instead of giving Wuk Lamat more lines than the game's entire history (per character), Alphinaud could have his own entire plot line there that they cut to for intermissions. I don't know, I'm spitballing. DT had a foundation sure, I just think it needed *more things actually happening* between nearly all the characters, all the time,

Originally Posted by Cleretic

No. Stop.

This is not an argument. Putting that aside, I framed this as speculation and it's not that serious. It's mostly the same people? Ok fine. They put out a critically inferior work.

And yes I do realize, I'm speaking more to character development, dialogue, the moment to moment of the storytelling. This is more of a lore discussion, which is a separate thing. However, I'd still say DT fails to set the same standard as, ARR. To be fair, maybe this is their intention. I was personally disappointed and felt as though we were left with more of a small mysterybox that points to the singular path the plot is seemingly going (for now) rather than having at least a few different threads that genuinely left me wondering what's in the future. If anything, I am wondering how they could be so carelessly handling their own content with the possible contradictions it is presenting (as I said, I will wait for 7.5 p2 to judge).

I also want to say, the reason I am waiting is because it can be done. There are problems with the story they are telling that can be fully resolved, quite easily. However I am not going to write the story for them as many players generously do on this forum. For example, they are clearly aware of some level of contradiction given they're flirting with the Hydaelyn question. I'm not sure if that's because they don't know the answer yet, they don't plan to answer it ever, or because there's a larger plot behind the Solistice that resolves most of the issues I am pondering.