Thread: 8.0 speculation

Originally Posted by Cleretic

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You need a whole NPC there to explain those bosses because they are just thrown in references that aren't even mentioned again after that by the other characters.
Ultima and Omega aren't even really brought up again by even us given their importance outside.

I haven't played FFXI and me as well as some others, really don't even know who half of those bosses are or why they are there. Why should I be excited for Card-dude when his existence doesn't even matter in the very same raid he is in?
Prishe as well lives much off of previous knowledge about her and who she actually is (I have read about her) because otherwise she is just a random companion.

I don't mind taking from previous titles and forming them into the setting of FFXIV like Crystal tower (even back then when it was basically the only Allagan content) and to a lesser extent Ivalice (which was heavily tied to Garlemald) had been but this raid is much closer to Nier in that regard.
Why not have people in the setting speculate more about Ultima and Omega instead of ignoring their existence?
Why not have the last two bosses of the second raid actually be an overarching thing from the beginning instead of appearing just to get thrown away next?
The whole thing would matter more when we actually saw impact outside like Sareel Ja and his Dawn servant copy confusing the people outside for example or the whole "Copy of another world out of Electrope" impacted the the rest of the world more given it's extreme potential.

I don't want to take away from those who enjoy the story of it but as someone who doesn't know the background of the setting it is extremely disappointing outside of the fights and looks themselves and I know that I am not the only one who thinks that.
Because in the end it will end like Nier. A self contained story without impact.

Whatever the whole thing is off topic anyway and I don't want to discuss about obvious personal taste even from my side because it's a neverending discussion.
Don't want to derail the thread here.
Let's just say that I think they could have done a way better job at integrating Vanadiel and as of right now the whole thing really just feels like "Greatest hits" for someone who hasn't played FFXI.
And because of that I genuinely don't want another crossover in the next raid, even less with something that isn't even FF.