Thread: 8.0 speculation

Originally Posted by Cleretic

The interesting thing to note here is that, despite looking very Garlean in structure, style and climate, and Yoshi-P specifically pointing out that it's Garlean, there's not a single reused Garlean asset. Even the street lamps are a different design. Which is a weird amount of effort to go to; if it's part of Garlemald, either the city or the nation, why not reuse a building or two? Why rebuild everything from scratch? I don't have an answer for that, but I do think the elephant in the room for answering that is 'maybe it isn't Garlemald'.

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And no, the symbol behind [Enuo's] head isn't an Ascian thing, honestly doesn't look that much like one anyway, and I'm really hopeful that theory goes nowhere fast. If this fanbase has a worst habit when speculating, it's finding the first answer that lets them say 'Ascians' and then never accepting any other theory until that one is COMPLETELY dead; we saw it with the Arcadion's symbol, we saw it with Endless Sphene's crest, and I really hope we don't see it a third time soon.

The lack of reused assets is something I noticed; while the Clyteum appears to use the brutalist architectural style the Garleans are known for, it doesn't look anything like we've seen out of them before. That could be for various reasons, but more noticeable to me was the fact the Garlean emblem they love to plaster on every available surface is completely absent. For a capital district not seeing it anywhere, combined with the architectural differences, is raising a lot of questions.

I'm not of the "It's obviously an Ascian glyph" school (the Arcadion emblem never looked at all like one to me), but we know they're back in play after 7.4 so looking for a match is just due diligence. It's just a noticeable difference from Enuo's V incarnation, which may or may not be relevant to his role in whatever plot he shows up in. (Sounds MSQ, but like I said, with Occult Crescent already being a V homage vehicle in Dawntrail...)

Originally Posted by Cassar

Highly doubt this trial is anything other than an MSQ trial. We of course don't know the context of it but I can't imagine them making people do Occult Crescent just to be able to do the trial.
Also, by the way, does anyone else find it extremely weird (and ugly) that the trial name is the same as the boss name? We always have cool titles like "The Ageless Necropolis", "Hell on Rails", but this one is just... "Enuo"? I want to believe this was somehow a mistake in the live letter, or maybe they don't wanna reveal the real title for spoiler reasons

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I definitely subscribe to the idea that we'll be beginning the process of opening the way to other reflections. Looks like 8.0 might not be in the source after all, although I wonder if they'll do the entire expansion in the same reflection, or if half the zones will be in one, and half in another. Of course, this is all speculation.

What do you think?

Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC

They don't always show the name of the trial the first time they mention it in a Letter from the Producer LIVE, especially since the Japanese titles of trials are just "[name of boss] showdown".

Basically, yeah. JP trial names lack the eloquence of EN's, so just "Enuo" makes sense. EN's tend to provide context since they're named after the location more often than not, so not having that known is sensible enough.

As to whether Enuo will be an MSQ trial... if I remember right they said he would be, but it's weird putting him in the MSQ with Occult Crescent being a V fanservice vehicle already. Worth noting that the Varis EX fight wasn't advertised, but all of the Bozja content is, to my knowledge, accessible without clearing earlier segments of the storyline, so having him easily accessible through Occult Crescent makes sense enough and resonates with the V fanservice. There's also the possibility of him being a part of the Hildibrand storyline as Asura was in Endwalker, but I dunno; Hildibrand's stuff is always out of left field (which is part of his charm) but...

It's just weird to put a V homage boss in an expack that already has a huge V homage vehicle as an MSQ fight, even if it's thematically resonant with the direction the plot seems to be headed. (And no, I don't think we're going to explore outer space; we're already doing that with Cosmic Exploration.)