There's something you guys are missing.

[Reginald_Cain]

People are more mad about old bad rewards being in new easy content than the fact that rewards like the glowy alo alo weapons were garbage on release and still are now. Yeah im sorry the prestige was lost for the X% of the community that bothered with criterion savage but for how masochistically difficult that was you deserved way more cool stuff and you should be mad that this hasn't improved years later.

Look at how little changes in your game experience for criterion savage rewards, you get no armor, or accessories with stats on them, no cool ability glamour for your job that a modder can make for free (can't even choose to keep wide volley animation in high levels), no you only get a mount that nobody in an instance will see and maybe a weapon that people already have but with a little sparkle on it. Nobody notices weapons in actual combat if they have effects on.

Yeah devaluing old content and personal achievement sucks but the compared to a lot of other video games the reward VS effort ratio for high end content for this game feels pretty bad. I think the most fun form of high end content ever released was delubrum reginae savage because it was so unlike anything we normally do in a dungeon or raid and bozja was the closest thing we had to job customization since cross class skills were a thing

[Reginald_Cain]

Heck I'll take it further than criterion, even real savage kinda sucks for the same reason. I think we have too many jobs now for the rewards to be as restrictive as they were 10 years ago. it like 4 tokens for 1 accessorie? 1 token for finally clearing after hours of people leaving the pf group after 1 wipe or having to wait hours while a "prog liar" dies to phase 1 mechs in an enrage party on loop. I know its an mmo and those are time sinks but at least make it a fun time sync like bozja. I like challenging games like Devil May Cry and Elden Ring but the main challenge of this game is people and jank network infrastructure.

[TeresaFortell]

That aside, it is setting a pretty bad precedent, as they can now have an excuse to include older rewards in future content. A part of me still wishes they would put more effort into creating new rewards instead of reusing old ones.