Faerie Gauge

[kobe-sabi]

Would it be so bad if we started with full Faerie Gauge, it Takes too long to fill it. Or can we include gauge for Fey Blessing, Whispering Dawn, and Fey Illumination.

[Supersnow845]

Why would you want to start with a full gauge for a gauge that spends 95% of its time full anyway

[kobe-sabi]

Why would you want to start with a full gauge for a gauge that spends 95% of its time full anyway

so, you don't use it at all. all the tanks you come across in the roulette use CDs don't wait till their damn near dead to pop all CDs. I been running a lot of Roulettes for these relics and its crazy in there, no songs BRD's, no burst on first pulls, no AOEs, laughable DPS.

[Supersnow845]

so, you don't use it at all. all the tanks you come across in the roulette use CDs don't wait till their damn near dead to pop all CDs. I been running a lot of Roulettes for these relics and its crazy in there, no songs BRD's, no burst on first pulls, no AOEs, laughable DPS.

I wouldn’t say I don’t use it at all but the amount of gauge you get vs the amount you spend is ridiculously biased to amount you get considering every aetherflow spent besides when under dissipation gives you 10 gauge. Using aetherflow skills gives ridiculously more return than fairie gauge so it’s rare I’ll use it to the extent I accumulate it

[Carighan]

You don't use the tether of shame on the tanks in most situations, at least in dungeons? They run away, the fairie struggles to keep it up anyways. It's to heal people up who you just rezzed so everyone sees they screwed up. Tether of shame!

Jokes aside, first the gauge needs actual uses. Then there's any reason to discuss whether it starts full or not. Like most elements of modern Scholar, the entire fairy gauge reeks of "vestigial design no developer could be bothered to actually remove". And I mean that's a problem bigger than one specific healer role class or even one specific role, FFXIV is urgently due for both a full class revamp and a full combat revamp (which makes sense given its age, these issues were supposed to be handled incrementally like in other MMOs but have been pushed off here so now they have piled up). Still, fairy gauge is an especially egregious example because as Supersnow845 says, you overflow in gauge anyways, and it lacks a real use.

Now on paper since the fairy uses some abilities for us, it'd be sensible to have a resource system and in turn those abilities don't have CDs, they just need resource, and you get the resource from something that has an inherent CD in itself. You get 10 energy every 20 seconds. Or well 30 every 60 seconds. So for the current abilities, all they'd need to do is:

* Fey Blessing and Whispering Dawn now cost 10 gauge.
* Fei Illumination costs 20 gauge.

In return those no longer have CDs. This of course doesn't quite because you'd just pool for Illum since it's so much stronger than the other abilities, but that'd be the general concept. But again we kinda first need a general class and combat rework.

(edit: And we need someone to make the forums use markdown -.-)

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

First of all, why? Do SCH really need even more HPS?

Second of all, the only thing I'd agree is to have more use of Fae Gauge other than just Union, but what would that be? The only other use of Fae Gauge that had existed in the game was Blessing itself (It was a 2m cooldown with 10p cost) and PvP Dissipation, both back in ShB days.

[...]You get 10 energy every 20 seconds. Or well 30 every 60 seconds[...]

Teeecchnically, they are able to generate 20 more fae gauge per minute due to Recit being 60s and Dissipation providing 3 AF every 3 minutes. However, those two cases are conditional benefits as not all Recit are used for Recitability or Recitcogitation, & not all Aetherflow gained from Dissipation are unloaded outside Dissipation window. But I'm just throwing that one out there, just in case.

[ForsakenRoe]

It is kinda surprising that when they reworked Blessing away from simply being 'AOE heal with a Gauge cost so low it might not exist', they went with 'AOE heal with no Gauge cost' rather than 'Channeled AOE heal, effectively Union but AOE'. They usually love making an AOE version of a ST action (or vice versa), so turning Blessing into 'Indom 2 but it's only about 75% as effective' was a bit of a surprise

If it WERE 'Union but AOE', ie pulsing a small Heal once per 3s and taking 10 Gauge per pulse, that'd be a little more interesting IMO. It'd definitely people to remember to spend their Gauge, it'd make Faerie positioning slightly more relevant than it currently is, etc