Rename the game to the Crystal Tower?

[Jeeqbit]

surely they can put something in to make people unlock the other ones as well, right?

More they do that, the longer the road to endgame. Moreover, while dungeons have duty support, trials and alliance raids don't so it increases the barrier to progressing MSQ with 40 minute waits or worse.

when it is a REQUIRED roulette for the Aetherwell step of the DT relic. There are no alternatives - no options. They are FORCING endgame players into Alliance Roulette and we are ALL being funneled to CT where we get ~ 300 points out of 10,000 every time we run it.

It's a temporary problem. You do the runs. Then you can go back to not-doing the roulette like I did.

I don't get this acting like it's a massive problem when it's like being asked by a family member to do the washing. You do it reluctantly, then it's done, all forgotten.

[Ankhira]

More they do that, the longer the road to endgame. Moreover, while dungeons have duty support, trials and alliance raids don't so it increases the barrier to progressing MSQ with 40 minute waits or worse.

Oh nooo, people actually have to engage with the content of the game!! The horror. I'm not saying to lock it behind MSQ. But add perks that makes people WANT to unlock them. Add a small quest that gives a mount or minion, people will unlock them.

[Jeeqbit]

Oh nooo, people actually have to engage with the content of the game!! The horror. I'm not saying to lock it behind MSQ. But add perks that makes people WANT to unlock them. Add a small quest that gives a mount or minion, people will unlock them.

The alliance raids all drop a minion. Obviously isn't enough.

[Asari5]

the game doesnt tell you anything about any alliance raids after crystal tower. a blue quest somewhere, but there are a lot of blue quests. there are player who dont even know these raids exist. so they dont know what you can get from them either. how wpuld they?

khloe might ask for them... but the first khloe version you keep getting til you reach lvl 100 (or current msq?) only goes up to lvl 60 xD
how is a player who never did these raids supposed to know what 'myths of the realm' even is and how you unlock it?

[Jeeqbit]

the game doesnt tell you anything about any alliance raids after crystal tower. a blue quest somewhere, but there are a lot of blue quests.

Right, and them being blue is meant to imply you should do them. You are pretty likely to figure this out after doing enough of them, but someone is likely to tell you as well (such as a friend, the Novice Network, or an FC that you joined).

Generally most blue quests are found in city states or tomestone spend areas.

there are player who dont even know these raids exist.

They are likely to either figure it out when they notice the "formula" and how each expansion is following the same pattern, or through word of mouth. I think that many people learn of things like this through YouTube as well. Eventually someone is going to mention "nier raids" or something like that.

I think it is not always them not knowing that other content exists, but that they simply didn't get round to it yet. They have a whole roadmap of things to do, and likely put a lot of it off but do actually intend to do it "at some point". I see this everywhere, where they know there is this and that to do but their focus is currently the things they are doing now, and maybe that relaxes them enough after working or whatever.

[VeyaAkemi]

Figuring out that Alliance Roulettes are there is very simple and acting like a new player wouldn't be able to is reaching levels of condescension, it is a very simple process:

New player notices blue quests are different from the normal grey ones
>From the blue quests you are actually required to do, they understand that blue quests universally unlock *something*, very often a new instance.
>>New player learns that there are these large scale 24 player raids from the story requirement to do Crystal Tower.
>>>New player creates the expectation that they should be doing blue quests if they want more unlocked instances, a player who is interested in trying every content in the game will do them as soon as they are able.

Games should not masticate everything for players, and a bare minimum of deductive reasoning should be expected.

[Alicie]

Figuring out that Alliance Roulettes are there is very simple and acting like a new player wouldn't be able to is reaching levels of condescension, it is a very simple process:

New player notices blue quests are different from the normal grey ones
>From the blue quests you are actually required to do, they understand that blue quests universally unlock *something*, very often a new instance.
>>New player learns that there are these large scale 24 player raids from the story requirement to do Crystal Tower.
>>>New player creates the expectation that they should be doing blue quests if they want more unlocked instances, a player who is interested in trying every content in the game will do them as soon as they are able.

Games should not masticate everything for players, and a bare minimum of deductive reasoning should be expected.

You forgot a part where gamer quickly figures out that there's not much value from unlocking additional alliance raids, dungeons and trials and just stops doing so entirely.