Remove the prerequisite of POTD for other deep dungeons

[TeresaFortell]

Deep dungeons are content designed to welcome players of all levels. However, in the current system, in order to access all deep dungeons, players must complete the first 50 levels of Palace of the Dead, which is the first deep dungeon available. Removing this prerequisite would greatly boost the number of players in deep dungeon content.

While the current system is meant to teach players how deep dungeons work, it is a significant barrier to entry, preventing many players from attempting more recent deep dungeons because they must spend hours completing this requirement before accessing other DDs. Additionally, this system is circumvented when people simply group up and rush through the 50 floors, providing no tangible learning outcomes for newcomers. The process is highly tedious and actively discourages players from engaging with deep dungeon content overall.

To give an example, several of my friends were very excited to try PT, as it is the latest deep dungeon. However, upon hearing they would have to complete the prerequisite first, they were taken aback and chose not to engage with the content.

To alleviate this, a proposed solution is to remove the requirement entirely, allowing players to freely access any deep dungeon. Additionally, there could be a tutorial added for deep dungeon, allowing players to get acquainted with the common mechanics they would encounter in such content.

In doing so, more players would be receptive to deep dungeon content, allowing more players to participate in this content.

[PaulusHamsteru]

I agree. This requirement should've been removed years ago.

[Gwenkatsu]

Definitely. I tried PotD twice years ago, with a group and solo - could not finish level 50 both times, so I lost interest and never returned. The place being bland and ugly also did not motivate me to retry.
If I could, I would check out the newer DDs - maybe something clicks and I start to like it. But suffering through PotD for this? Thanks, but no thanks.

[Jeeqbit]

They seem to do it because of the fact it has a load of text at the start that explains how it works. What they should really do is make that text just appear on whichever is your first deep dungeon. They have two systems for that already, including the tiny window called Active Help and a recently-added system that explains it every time but is better (bigger size, more like other games) which most people will have seen when NPCs follow them in the MSQ, but they also added it for things like society quest status effects.

They specifically seem to require it for Pilgrim's Traverse because they wanted to specifically reference Palace of the Dead as a point of comparison to explain what has changed compared to it. But it would make more sense to just explain it as if the person hasn't done Palace of the Dead.

They do this with other game features:

• The Stone, Sky, Sea of each expansion requires you to first unlock it for Heavensward in Idyllshire...
• The Hunt system in each expansion cannot be unlocked until you rank up to Second Lieutenant in your Grand Company, do the hunt quest to unlock ARR hunts, and then do 2 quests in Ishgard, 1 in Idyllshire and 1 in Ishgard again, just to be able to unlock it for Dawntrail at Tuliyollal.

[HammAndCheese]

The recent changes to aetherpool accumulation in Palace have been a great boon to the early floors for getting stronger faster and subsequently has made clearing floor 50 much faster/easier.

I want them to implement the new system PT introduced where you can start on a later floor to all the older deep dungeons.

[Jaltaer]

The recent changes to aetherpool accumulation in Palace have been a great boon to the early floors for getting stronger faster and subsequently has made clearing floor 50 much faster/easier.

I want them to implement the new system PT introduced where you can start on a later floor to all the older deep dungeons.

I believe they did say they were planning on looking at feedback for the new & changed mechanics in PT and potentially implementing them to the older DDs. Whether that actually happens is a whole other story, but I do hope it does happen.


Also I agree with it being much easier these days - I recently took an alt through PotD, starting from 0/0 solo, and by the time I hit floor 100, I had enough for 2 aetherpool weapons and I still hit the 99/99 cap again by the time I got there. Plus the droprate for the sustain potions is absolutely crazy especially in the lower floor sets, my alt still has nearly 500 despite using a ton getting up to 100.

[Reginald_Cain]

Overdue change bless you op

[Asari5]

i dont really care, but it really is nonsense. remove it!