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  1. #21
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    CNitsah's Avatar
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I still think that, in their current state, Eureka Relics are the best. Every Fate you do, you progress in your quest, light farm goes very fast with Louhi and Cassie spawn mobs, and you can get one in around 20 hours of farm. Maybe Hydatos might recieve a small boost in term of crystal drops, but overall, it's the most consistent experience. It might have been awful when it released, but in this current state, it's nice. A relic takes around 15 hours to do, which is long enough to be rewarding, but not too long.

    ARR and HW had their awful steps that took far too long (the light step is only ok since you can do it unsync, it was wild before that)
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  2. #22
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    Tiger Undie
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    Fisher Lv 100
    the current relics are better than the ex weapons, tho
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  3. #23
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    It might have been awful when it released, but in this current state, it's nice. A relic takes around 15 hours to do, which is long enough to be rewarding, but not too long.
    Nah, the Stormblood relic was fine even when it was current...if you were okay with average.

    Because the Eureka relic had stat gambling attached to one of the last stages, you farmed light in Pyros and then spent that light to reroll the stats on it, with a random chance on which stats you got and how high those stats were.
    This could make it absolutely atrocious or not bad at all depending on how lucky you got and how close you wanted to get to the cap, but if you only wanted it for glamour you didn't need to care about stats at all.

    But this also made it probably the most satisfying relic to finish, because it was the only time that a relic could vastly outclass every other weapon in the game. The Eureka relic had a substat total of potentially 1000 (which could be entirely crit if you grinded and gambled hard enough) while the savage weapon had a substat total of 605.


    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    the current relics are better than the ex weapons, tho
    Sure, they are marginally better. But the time investment for how little you gain makes it not really worth it.

    But that's just how relic have almost always been, glorified glamour sticks that are not worth it if you don't care for how they look.
    The only time the relic was worth it as a gear upgrade was in early ARR and at the end of Stormblood.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-29-2026 at 07:02 AM.

  4. #24
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    Tizzy_Tormentor's Avatar
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    Tizzy Tormentor
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    Omega
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    People think DT steps are grindy?

    Anyway the value of a relic is relative, do you want a shiny glowy weapon that's statistically only weaker than tome and savage weapons? Then go for it, if not, don't sweat it.
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  5. #25
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    Carstien's Avatar
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    Richter Cade
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    Alpha
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    I liked the HW light grind, now 20 ore, bone, seeds and shells back in the day, that was awful.
    As was the fate grinding, if you didn't have a zeta to turn in for the crystals.
    Oh god I think I blocked out the ore, bone, seeds and shells, poetics grind right? We got lucky too, had a friend who had 7 crafting alts (he said it was for the retainer room) and we ran every alt through every turn of coil unsynced to get the 100 tomes new player bonus. He came on his main too because he had them on a different account...it was weird but even doing all that it was a hell of a grind.

    I definitely turned in my Zeta to avoid the fates lol.
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  6. #26
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC View Post
    in FF11 once you get your Relic, you had the BEST weapon you can get in game.
    I have great news. FF11 is still playable.
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  7. #27
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    Mercury_Grey's Avatar
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    Jaune Khione
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    the current relics are better than the ex weapons, tho
    I have to amit i had excalibur for my PLD glam for a while. But the new look on sword. It looks like a gladiator Got recognized for their deeds and got their first ever jobstone. New weapon means more glamour options to work with. I can't say much caus emy glamour right now is Jaune Arc from rwby but you win some and lose some
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    A happy family between a viera, a goddess and a child

  8. #28
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    Medim Azurarok
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    "always been the way it works" is not really a great reason to say it's fine? Shouldn't there be more ways to gear up than doing savage(not to mention having more stuff to use said gear on besides savage/ultis), or is grinding 60 leveling roulettes not "worthy" of such things
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  9. #29
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    Jaune Khione
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    ONce relic weapons aren't BiS they are good for glamour or a completionist goal. Except eureka i still haven't ifnished one and i really don't want too unless i find a group to help me do it all. Otherwise i just been doing every new step of teh DT relic that came out that way im not farming every single step either at 7.55 or 8.0+
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    A happy family between a viera, a goddess and a child

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    Lennath Aoran
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Taking the bait, but worth it IMO.

    "Real" Tomestone weapons take SEVEN Weeks to get one because the time gating on the final boss of the tomestone's normal raid series. Even at a casual pace, a relic takes, what, 2 weeks?


    Edit : Forgot to put in normal raid series.
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