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    Greyhawk's Avatar
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    Term filter is as big of a joke as DDoS mitigation.. oh wait

    Yeah, that's right - there is none.

    This is a great example I just took the time to capture of failure months into what was supposed to be a working term filter for chat channels.

    Being a case sensitive filter is just flat out stupid. I mean, really stupid. If I wanted to get around them, to further shout out in that I want to advertise yet another night club, there's so many combinations of terms that could be used just one one word. Such an example: 'giveaway'.

    https://imgur.com/a/gXXKRkr

    I can think of about 16 different ways around just filtering that word, because of the idiotic case sensitive nature of a term filter in this game.

    The dev team really needs to work a little bit better here on the poor execution of this idea. Great idea, poor execution.
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    I found it more effective to block the part of the word that comes after, ignoring the first letter entirely, in order to avoid case-sensitivity issues. Or at least, it seems to catch and block more stuff for me.

    (Was trying to show someone how to turn off the "this message was blocked" text.)

    Someone can certainly try to work around that, but that just uarantees they get sent to the mute list instead for purposefully trying to circumvent the filter.
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    Excellent idea, it would probably catch more. Of course, if they would let us use two letters, I could probably just filter out 'DJ' and 95% of the shouts would be gone.
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    Allicia Capulet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I found it more effective to block the part of the word that comes after, ignoring the first letter entirely, in order to avoid case-sensitivity issues. Or at least, it seems to catch and block more stuff for me.

    (Was trying to show someone how to turn off the "this message was blocked" text.)

    Someone can certainly try to work around that, but that just uarantees they get sent to the mute list instead for purposefully trying to circumvent the filter.
    But that way, you'll totally miss out if someone offers you some tasty waffle ! Since "affle" will block it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlliciaCapulet View Post
    But that way, you'll totally miss out if someone offers you some tasty waffle ! Since "affle" will block it !
    Or if someone invites them to a sultry Samba dance :'(
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    Term filter is another sign they still want to move in the wrong direction.
    Finding way to save themselves from making the effort.
    Dumping responsibility on their playerbase instead.
    With a term filter they don't have to deal with RMT messages anymore. (Let the rmters do their thing)
    With a term filter they don't have to have GMs who can understand and deal with the users issuing toxic interactions.
    They can just blame the users for not tackling it themselves with a filter.

    Does the filter just mask the word or block the entire message so i dint know it was sent?
    Because if they are going to go down this path it MUST be the latter not the former.
    I don't want to know the answer because it dismays me that the answer will be the former.
    I can't be bothered to explain why the former is so bad. Its about non personal posts vs personal chatmessages. Different problems needing different solutions.

    "Affle" block's "waffle"?
    Are these the same people that solved stalking by sending character lists to the client? (I haven't heard that's fixed. Last I heard its just laughably encoded. Which if it's not fixed then right now there are people with the tools to exploit it, and the will be using them)
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 01-22-2026 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlliciaCapulet View Post
    But that way, you'll totally miss out if someone offers you some tasty waffle ! Since "affle" will block it !
    Quote Originally Posted by tsuchii View Post
    Or if someone invites them to a sultry Samba dance :'(
    Lol, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to take in order to block out shout spammers, since they're just annoying otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Does the filter just mask the word or block the entire message so i dint know it was sent?
    Because if they are going to go down this path it MUST be the latter not the former.
    I don't want to know the answer because it dismays me that the answer will be the former.
    It blocks out the entire message. However, by default the system will replace the blocked message with a "this message was blocked" note in the chat, but you can turn that off as well.
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    Wait. They have a chat filter in this game, and the filter terms are *case sensitive*?
    That is... well... uh...
    I hope whoever came up with this brilliant idea does not mention it in their resume - might make their further work life a bit complicated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    I can think of about 16 different ways around just filtering that word
    For an 8 letter word there are 256 different combinations of lower/upper case. Not taking into account the inverted letters, or leet speak (g1ve4w4y or w/e).
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    Last edited by Gwenkatsu; 01-23-2026 at 01:50 AM.

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    Or the fact that we can only have 10. I mean it should be saved locally on your computer anyway. Why not allow more?
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tudi20 View Post
    Or the fact that we can only have 10. I mean it should be saved locally on your computer anyway. Why not allow more?
    It's like this with every feature. Everything is saved locally but you get barely any space, modders give us effectively infinite storage, CS3 eventually gives a more usable amount. Rinse and repeat. We used to only have 5 savable waymarkers! It wasn't enough for a single patch's content.
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