Couldnt we possibly in any way allow people to clear savage in trusts?

[b3nzyme]

I know this opinion isnt popular nor probably even relatable to most, but for someone like myself, i began raiding with a casual static and came to the point in my life where im working to do things i havent dome before in real life at all - like being free from working for someone else, seeing the world, and using my time to help people in a meaningful way. I am closer to achieving this goal with every passing day, but for now, because i am employed, i work from sunrise to sunset and usually only have just a few hours to myself each night unless i skip out on sleep and many many things i absolutely need to do in real life. Lately, i have been doing such a thing in party finder, because i do not have time to commit to a static, nor do i want to, so im just trying to get this tier over as fast as i can. Why do i even bother? Because i enjoy helping others raid, whether its joining a static vc or joining a pf group and helping others have fun playing the game. That is where i find joy, becsuse i always emd up in a spot where im.leading or doing callouts in raid situations anyway, because i learn really fast.

As of late, ive been suffering in pf so much that after being 1.58% enrage on m11s monday night and being 0.07% phase one m12s last night, im beginning to daydream and fall asleep while raiding. I took a day off wednesday, and yesterday, i was in m12, and spent the entire evening skipping dinner and staying up past midnight because this group i was in hit the 0.07% without potions and wanted to get a clean pull to clear phase one. That never happened, and besides that, i was so tired that on the second and latest closest pull of the night, i was the one memeing, becaue i was so tired by thia point that i died by getting my toe clipped from a bad camera angle and got a damage down from having a keyboard slip issue that "lagged" me a fraction of a second while dropping aoes in the intercardinal-safe pattern on act 3. I went to bed, cried in my pillow for a second, woke up and found out my aloe vera plants got frozen overnight, because i didnt know it was going to freeze last night (i live where it doesnt regularly freeze in winter) and the group finally cleared phase one without me with a tank that did tremendously less damage than i did. Seeing that felt like a kick in the groin, so what im.asking is,

[b3nzyme]

can there please be savage raids for people like myself who can just get on, learn the fight, do the fight, and win, and not have to spend untold amounts of time and gil wiping, when for example, it took 598 pulls for me to clear m8s, when i truly should have cleared in 10% or less of that time, because in my first 300 pulls, i only wiped the raid 5 times, and later, i went in as a dps for the first time on two jobs and never memed. Got my first gold parse, two pinks, and two oranges in four weeks in random pf groups.meant for clearing and not parsing, so im.saying all of this to say that clearing this fast is important to me (which is why im not inna static) so i can free up my time for my personal pursuits and to allow me to choose when to come back and play and spend time with other players that i know as well as randoms in party finder whenever i am in the mood and able to be of help or want to just simply enjoy it for what it is.



Tl:dr i am clearing just so i dont have to raid on a schedule and can choose when to play

[NaoSen]

This pretty much links up to when a practice mode of sorts gets asked for, I do think, given to how much of a nightmare pf is, that some kind of way for people to get better needs to exist other than throwing self against the wall over and over. It's obviously needed.
I'd be up for this existing if it was zero achievement, zero progression (other than being able to do the next one), zero gear.

Then maybe the PF experience would be better.

[Shistar]

I wasn't going to answer because I can't tell if this is bait, memeing or a legitimate request, but I will assume the latter.
I highly doubt they will ever add Trusts, because Savage is not MSQ content. However...

If you are as good as you say, the only solution I can think about is to, in preparation for a Savage tier, clear your schedule for as many days as you can muster, then get into one of those hardcore statics that try to get the tier done in like a week or something.

One that just so happens to have a schedule that doesn't get in the way of anything you have going on already, that is convenient to you, with people you like or play to your liking, etc. gets harder to find the more prerequisites you have, so if you can get your schedule in order to fit into a static that has what you're looking for, it may be worth it.

Even if you disregard everything said and still want Trusts for Savage, consider this: Trusts are extremely stupid. They had to lobotomize lots of dungeons just so Trusts wouldn't eat dirt or get stuck somewhere immediately, so you can expect the devs to also lobotomize Savage if they were to add Trusts to it... and no one wants that.

Anyway. I hope you can find a group that works for you, or that your PFs fill quickly at least lol we're all busy people with lives, but each player chooses how to manage their time and make space for what truly matters to them.

[Kaurhz]

If there's an audience for it, definitely.

I wouldn't strip achievement, but rather have 2 distinct achievements... One for clearing under 'trusts', and another for clearing with a party of players.

[BokoToloko]

Considering plenty of the fights need to assign spots, they would need to raise a whole different structure where you can assign your spot for the fight and have the rest of the NPCs adapt. Not only that, having Savage be clearable or farmable solo would require the NPCs know the fight flawlessly and do the DPS that is required of them. If they make it so, what incentive would there be for PF or Static raid groups?

But, above all, I would rather not have the Multiplayer in MMO be more and more eroded to the point that the only place with human players is Limsa. If you're frustrated over having to clear the optional challenges with people, you should probably consider moving to single player games, which are bound to offer a much better experience, overall.

[NegativeS]

This is probably bait, but...

I think anything above MSQ-tier fights might be too much for the Trust system, otherwise they wouldn't have neutered all those old dungeons.

Also, isn't this an MMO? Why does everything need to be accomplishable in single player? Are you sure this is the right genre for you? I get the struggle of being employed, but like, come on.

[Absurdity]

Considering plenty of the fights need to assign spots, they would need to raise a whole different structure where you can assign your spot for the fight and have the rest of the NPCs adapt. Not only that, having Savage be clearable or farmable solo would require the NPCs know the fight flawlessly and do the DPS that is required of them. If they make it so, what incentive would there be for PF or Static raid groups?

Which also brings up the problem of trusts affecting the content they are implemented in again (usually not in a good way). The trusts would not just have to adapt to your chosen position but also to any kind of variation within savage mechanics, be that random debuff assignments or the usual support/dps split on who has to do what first.

So what is likely to happen, since we've seen it before, is that any "randomness" would get removed to make it simpler for trusts to execute. Much easier to program when you only have to account for a single pattern.

[Deejudanne]

There's no way this ain't bait

[CaptainLagbeard]

I feel it would be more sensible to make a step between Normal and Savage, for at least the first 3 fights of the Tier... Gotta leave that 4th fight's second phase to Savage... There the bosses health and damage should be somewhere between the two, have the Savage Enrage timers and the Savage mechanics.

And if rewards are needed, you can have tokens that can be used to upgrade the normal raid gear by 5 ilvls so they don't replace tomestone gear, and can also unlock them for dyes.