Bye Bye, Speed Runs. /dance

[Leo_Hart]

Spamming content over and over again it's nothing to do with speed run, it's about drop rate. If speed run is not challenge, what is challenge. Garuda is challenge, where is all the challenger?

[HiirNoivl]

Spamming content over and over again it's nothing to do with speed run, it's about drop rate. If speed run is not challenge, what is challenge. Garuda is challenge, where is all the challenger?

Hiding under their beds. >: D

[Molly_Millions]

Spamming content over and over again it's nothing to do with speed run, it's about drop rate. If speed run is not challenge, what is challenge. Garuda is challenge, where is all the challenger?

but it is about the speed run mechanic, most groups need to spam the dungeons over and over again to get the speed run down, which is a requirement to get all of the chests, which also have a shitty drop rate. With the way the content is set up now, it's all connected. Who cares for just 'any old win' when all the chests don't pop unless you get the speed run win?

[Leo_Hart]

but it is about the speed run mechanic, most groups need to spam the dungeons over and over again to get the speed run down, which is a requirement to get all of the chests, which also have a shitty drop rate. With the way the content is set up now, it's all connected. Who cares for just 'any old win' when all the chests don't pop unless you get the speed run win?

SE give us Slow Run, if dungeon clear after 59:55, 5th chest pop, happy?

[Hikozaemon]

SE give us Slow Run, if dungeon clear after 59:55, 5th chest pop, happy?

yes id be frickin estatic!!! at least people could enjoy the game w/ the people they like to play w/ and more importantly allow them to play the classes/jobs they want to instead of optimizing bullshit that only causes more tension and is bad for a ls that has more than 8 members. the current version of ff14 is not very friendly to large ls groups the loots system/rate is atrocious. Ever notice in screen shots people post on these forums that usually only 4/8 of the ls members have dungeon gear/relic etc and more than half the remaining ls is left out?! And that just isnt because those people contribute the most; i bet alot of those people attend events/etc just as much as the well geared players who imo seem to be looking like Lootwhores these days. While people dont like VW from ff11 because yes the drop rates are BADDDDD. but at least people have a fair chance of gettin something for there hard work and everyone possibly is rewarded instead of the person who has the most points/plays the most/ doesnt have a damn life etc..... The loot system in 2.0 should remain private w/ the option to pass and item in certain instances if the player so chooses to; but the player should never feel they should have to give away what they rightfully earned or be bullied into by there LS.


and excuse my horrible typing and grammar today ive had 1hour of sleep some jackwagon drunk hit my truck last night and he had no insurance........./facepalm

[Molly_Millions]

SE give us Slow Run, if dungeon clear after 59:55, 5th chest pop, happy?

If you think that's all they can do to change the mechanics, you're a moron. I'm not suggesting they do away with the speed run mechanic without putting something else in it's place. What I'm suggesting is that the requirement of the speed run as the only way to get a relic, needs to change. For example, a dungeon could have multiple paths, only one of which could be completed in a single run. In that case, the requirement for the relic could be that the player must complete all possible paths. But that's just one route they could take, I'm sure SE could come up with something better than that. Perhaps they could leave the speed run as an optional path for the relic, bypassing the longer requirement to complete all possible paths.

[Leo_Hart]

If you think that's all they can do to change the mechanics, you're a moron. I'm not suggesting they do away with the speed run mechanic without putting something else in it's place. What I'm suggesting is that the requirement of the speed run as the only way to get a relic, needs to change. For example, a dungeon could have multiple paths, only one of which could be completed in a single run. In that case, the requirement for the relic could be that the player must complete all possible paths. But that's just one route they could take, I'm sure SE could come up with something better than that. Perhaps they could leave the speed run as an optional path for the relic, bypassing the longer requirement to complete all possible paths.

So, you are smart good to know

[daemian]

I was reading the OP post but I don't see where it says Speed Runs are going to be removed... it is said raids will have many different settings ...and I understand that like: "we will add new features to make it more enjoyable for more players" rather than "we will remove a feature and make it easier"

Speed runs are a pain for some players (like me lol) without a static/constant group to practice them because ~trying to do speed runs with pickups is ultimate challenge in this game :P

But speed runs actually gives to 1.0 a higher challenging level. The problem is that it made players become elitists with some classes... at this point, let's just not lie ourselves either: there will always be a better party setting than others for certain content. That can't be removed, if not there is no reason for jobs/specializations but the idea is that everyone could have a chance to make them...

Everyone can't be pleased with the same... so SE will try to please everyone with "options"...

[Munba]

Hope the new dungeons will be full of exploration, riddles, hidden things to find and stuff.

[Chardrizard]

I am happy to say to see the one that wants speedrun to go away so bad is the one that unable to get it done. (Ironically doesn't have Garuda done either despite wanting challengeing content)

I for one do not care if they are there or not, they are just one of the few challenges SE implemented, if you can't get it done that just means you are not as good as you thinks you are, do not make a petty post how they are terrible mechanic because you are unable to do them.