Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
The journey of *checks notes* grinding FATEs
Yes, exactly, it is a grind that requires commitment, and that's exactly what I want, I don't want to just do things, I want to have a reason to do things, and Relics give me that reason, every relic barring EW ones involved some form of FATE farming, if you just consider NMs to be boss FATEs with extra steps, and I enjoyed all of them, it is the moment to moment, talking about what I was doing with people, so on, ultimately the journey is the process of going out and doing things, of interacting with the game world, even if just flying back and forth while occasionally talking to people, that's the journey, and I value what I had with it.

Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
I guess I just really don't like grinding for the sake of grinding.
And that's fine, but relics have, historically, been intensive grinds, 5 out of 6 relics series, counting Phantom Weapons already, have been intensive grinds, so that's what they are supposed to be, and people like me who enjoy those grinds are always happy to get them, and I personally think it's a shame for them be asked to be anything lesser than that, it means losing a form of content I enjoy a great deal.

Also frankly, I fully expect the process to be nerfed in 8.0, literally every single Relic series has been nerfed once their time in the limelight has passed, the Demi Atmas that people complained so much about will be 50% chance to guaranteed in a year's time from OC Critical Encounters, and 20% or more from FATEs, so if you feel dealing with it right now isn't worth the hassle, wait it out.