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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Nah, relic weapons are supposed to be grindy and hard to get. Zodiac Weapons, at least in the current nerfed state of the grind, are the best relic weapons in the game. Maybe it was bad on release, but now? It's a model that should be emulated.

    I was disappointed with Occult Crescent and think the acquisition of demi-Atma there could've been handled better, but there's nothing inherently wrong with Atma itself.
    Relics aren't hard to get. It's just a massive grind and I seriously wonder where this "it's supposed to be that way" attitude comes from.

    MMOs are a dying genre and they need to learn that most of their players are in their late twenties and older, with jobs and/or families. Most of us can't grind the game 6 hours a day like we used to when we were teenagers with nothing but time.

    The way Endwalker did it was dumb but the massive grind isn't great, either. Surely, some kind of happy medium is possible without them wildly swinging between "no effort" and "incredibly time consuming and RNG dependent".

    That being said, my biggest problem with OC is that it feels pointless. Phantom jobs don't add anything fun. Mindlessly grinding basic mobs is soulcrushing. The FATEs are...alright, I guess? But the insane rush from one to the other before it dies almost instantly is also not amazing. Forked Tower being Savage difficulty and needing to be organized through Discord means it's dead content. And, worst of all, you can't even level in there.

    The thing I liked the most about Bozja was that I always felt like I was progressing towards something. I was leveling up my rank, gaining memories, leveling my alt jobs. OC took the worst aspects of Eureka and Bozja and combined them.
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    Last edited by PercibelTheren; 01-12-2026 at 05:25 PM.