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    Endgame content is currently impossible

    Many people have already mentioned the many disconnections they have experienced in other threads. However, a more serious implication should be addressed properly: its negative impact on various endgame content.

    With all the DDoS attacks and disconnections, completing endgame content is borderline impossible. Take Deep Dungeons, for example: they take hours to complete, and a single disconnect in the middle would brick your file if you're unable to return in time. The added protection is insufficient since you cannot be certain when you can return, and it may cause you to be KO'ed by roaming mobs. Ultimates, likewise, cannot be completed if a disconnect occurs during pull, as this content requires all 8 individuals to be present. Regarding savage and extreme raids, the absence of a single player in contemporary raids, or even in raids from the previous expansion, would cause a wipe. Even PvP is facing immense difficulty due to disconnects, as by the time you return, the match will be over, typically resulting in a draw.

    As of now, VPNs are used as alternatives to counter these random attacks. However, they are not foolproof, as I have personally experienced situations in which party members who enabled VPNs were still disconnected from the server. Also, it is absolutely ridiculous for players to install VPNs to mitigate a fault not of their own making. Another suggestion is to move to another DC, primarily OCE, when doing such content. However, it is simply unplayable due to latency becoming a significant issue. And again, why should anyone go to another DC when they are not responsible for the problem?

    For now, it would be best to ease back on completing any such content, since these attacks have been too frequent to get anything done whatsoever. The overall impact of such disconnections has been devastating for everyone. If this becomes the new normal, then it would effectively kill the endgame scene in NA, as no one would be inclined to redo an entire raid because of something beyond their control.
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    Last edited by TeresaFortell; 01-04-2026 at 04:11 PM.

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    Crafting is currently a joke to also do. Trying to craft HQ items, to only be disconnected from the server is aggravating at best, infuriating at worst because you know that NA server are frankly this game's red-headed stepchild.

    They care enough to pay for JP server mitigation against DDoS but don't bother with NA, because why should they care about us suckers? This is now a DAILY problem, and SE chooses to run their company in this fashion, and approve of using an ISP running their NOC out of some third world sink hooked up to a braided telephone line and bathroom sink hooked up to a car battery for maximum reception.

    It's really time they pulled their heads out of the clouds, and other more obvious places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Crafting is currently a joke to also do. Trying to craft HQ items, to only be disconnected from the server is aggravating at best, infuriating at worst because you know that NA server are frankly this game's red-headed stepchild.

    They care enough to pay for JP server mitigation against DDoS but don't bother with NA, because why should they care about us suckers? This is now a DAILY problem, and SE chooses to run their company in this fashion, and approve of using an ISP running their NOC out of some third world sink hooked up to a braided telephone line and bathroom sink hooked up to a car battery for maximum reception.

    It's really time they pulled their heads out of the clouds, and other more obvious places.
    I strongly advise travelling to Ravana/OCE and doing your crafts..the ping is worse but not really noteworthy while crafting with your macros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    This is now a DAILY problem
    Daily? It's fucking hourly.
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    I don't agree that completing endgame content is "impossible". I think a better assessment is that it's very inconvenient and the gameplay experience is poor quality.

    For example, while I have had time wasted and lags and disconnects during hunt trains and Extreme trials, the fact is I've done many hunt trains and farmed over 100 Doomtrain totems despite these issues.

    While crafting can be affected, it's not "impossible" since people can travel to Materia and do it and the same is true for Deep Dungeons.

    It's very unfortunate if someone is disconnected when about to clear Savage or Ultimate, and it's a poor quality experience, but it's not "impossible" to clear them since it will probably be cleared at some point in the future after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't agree that completing endgame content is "impossible". I think a better assessment is that it's very inconvenient and the gameplay experience is poor quality.
    Tone policing, hyperbole exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    Tone policing, hyperbole exists.
    That is not how you use that phrase; tone policing is a phrase historically and presently associated with activism and such; i.e. a marginalized person saying "I hate [insert majority group] for doing [oppressive thing]." and then being told "WELL NOT ALL [GROUP]". Stop misappropriating actual activist terminology for your menial whining.

    Also, I'm tired of these NA doomer threads never specifying their DC in the titles. Bleh.
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    Midcore is when you take a look at an Ultimate, nod along sagely to a guide and decide to do it when you get 12 months of uninterrupted vacation, which is to say: never.
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    I think at this point 0blivion has decided to play forum villain, until perhaps the Exarch cloak becomes available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    That is not how you use that phrase; tone policing is a phrase historically and presently associated with activism and such; i.e. a marginalized person saying "I hate [insert majority group] for doing [oppressive thing]." and then being told "WELL NOT ALL [GROUP]". Stop misappropriating actual activist terminology for your menial whining.

    Also, I'm tired of these NA doomer threads never specifying their DC in the titles. Bleh.
    You could be nicer than that, its just a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't agree that completing endgame content is "impossible". I think a better assessment is that it's very inconvenient and the gameplay experience is poor quality.

    For example, while I have had time wasted and lags and disconnects during hunt trains and Extreme trials, the fact is I've done many hunt trains and farmed over 100 Doomtrain totems despite these issues.

    While crafting can be affected, it's not "impossible" since people can travel to Materia and do it and the same is true for Deep Dungeons.

    It's very unfortunate if someone is disconnected when about to clear Savage or Ultimate, and it's a poor quality experience, but it's not "impossible" to clear them since it will probably be cleared at some point in the future after that.
    Actually, at this very moment, it is currently "impossible" for me. I can't even log in now, because the lobby is so fucked up, all I get is a 2002 error.

    Please stop riding your horse so hard, white knight. It needs to eat and drink too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    While crafting can be affected, it's not "impossible" since people can travel to Materia and do it and the same is true for Deep Dungeons.
    A valid point, but when you are in another DC, you have no access to your retainers, you cannot gather limited nodes, and you cannot use FC buffs. All these inconveniences stemming from the compromise are due to a problem beyond your control.
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