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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    An expansion of the "Limited Leveling Roulette" feature that lets you block content by expansion, and includes trials and raids, would certainly be useful in letting people curate their roulette experience to better weigh getting into content they might actually enjoy doing for the day.
    That only works if you are in a party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury_Grey View Post
    That only works if you are in a party
    The main purpose of roulettes is to fill queues, in return you get the roulette bonus rewards; being able to block out certain duties would defeat its own purpose, hence the limited levelling roulette setting only works when you are in a pre-made 4 men party.
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    転化の「回復魔法20%上昇」を「回復効果20%上昇」にしてくださいお願いします!
    このままではまるでエナジードレイン用のフロー補充じゃないですか!
    Please change the "increases healing magic potency by 20%" of Dissipation into "increases HP recovery via healing actions by 20%"!
    As is, doesn't it look like it's just replenishing flows for Energy Drain!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chajii View Post
    The main purpose of roulettes is to fill queues, in return you get the roulette bonus rewards; being able to block out certain duties would defeat its own purpose, hence the limited levelling roulette setting only works when you are in a pre-made 4 men party.
    100% this.It also doesnt matter if theres a 1st timer or not. If someone queued the new monster hunter trial to get the mount, then theres a high chance that you get in there as filler.
    Mogry is story relevant, same as syrcus tower, laby or wod. Thats why they appear more common. Others simply need it more often
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    That would only hurt new players. Roulettes are there so newer players have other people to help them through content. This idea would be horrible for the health of the game. Either take the tomestone hit and check what boxes you want to run or suck it up.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drimn View Post
    That would only hurt new players. Roulettes are there so newer players have other people to help them through content. This idea would be horrible for the health of the game. Either take the tomestone hit and check what boxes you want to run or suck it up.
    Again, another person defending botters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drimn View Post
    That would only hurt new players. Roulettes are there so newer players have other people to help them through content. This idea would be horrible for the health of the game. Either take the tomestone hit and check what boxes you want to run or suck it up.
    Or people just avoid doing roulettes at all. That's what I did to dodge Stormblood and Shadowbringers dungeons/trials/raids, which I'm sure wasn't helping any new players back when I was still on Dynamis and they only needed one more warm body to turn their 20+ minute queue into a "less than 5 minute one". I only show up for MSQ/Frontlines/Guildhests anymore, and I only do that last one 10 times before calling it a week, and frequently talk myself out of doing the MSQ one after all these DDoS started.

    The roulette bonus isn't worth the hassle of doing content I don't find fun (or in some cases, it's not even doable for me when synced), and I'm not obligated to show up so other people can get stuff done. Not that my presence is warranted if I'm struggling on Normal content post-HW. They'd be better off waiting anyway.

    The worst that happens is that I'm more reliant on society quests/masked carnival/wondrous tails/PVP for poetics, but they're only being funneled into HW relics right now, and I can't even use the other kinds of tomestones because I can't access the vendors that use them so they remain capped/future ones go to waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drimn View Post
    That would only hurt new players. Roulettes are there so newer players have other people to help them through content. This idea would be horrible for the health of the game. Either take the tomestone hit and check what boxes you want to run or suck it up.
    Can you substantiate this? Why does the roulette only work if there is no blacklist option? If that's the case why doesn't SE make the mentor roulette the only roulette instead of separating them such that people can blacklist duties via type already?

    As far as I can see there is no obvious downside to letting people opt out, not even from the view of the roulette as a queue filler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury_Grey View Post
    That only works if you are in a party
    I'm aware, that's why I said an "expansion" of the system already in place because the concept already exists (letting people limit the number of things in the hat to pull from) but it currently only affects a very small subset of dungeons and only when in a party already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    its a roulette yes... i guess i just wont do it then.
    very helpful to fill lots of groups right?
    That became my sentiment after a while, albeit mine was from wanting to avoid Stormblood and Shadowbringers content because I wasn't good at doing it, and it felt pointless to queue into those dungeons/trials/raids if I was just going to be dead weight anyway and the group would be better off getting a replacement while I left.

    But the 30 minute penalty applies to ALL instanced duties, leaving me with little else to do if I take it, so I stopped... by just not queuing for dungeons/trials/raids via roulette at all. I can't be punished if I don't apply after all, and if my not applying means other people have to wait even longer, then that's fine because again, they're better off waiting than getting stuck with me and it's not like I'll be missed anyway on account of being a DPS main.
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