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    Gaiinahat's Avatar
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    There are options. The more dungeons, raids, and trials you have unlocked the better your chances of NOT getting something you don't want, as well as an option to limit the roulette to 7 levels below your current level.
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    man some people really do not wanna play the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by theunhappypotato View Post
    man some people really do not wanna play the game
    Well not if its the same dungeon/trial every day for years lol

    Blocking out a couple dungeons from all the dungeons in the game is hardly not wanting to play it, it's more like wanting to play more of it than just the 3 things roulette wants to give you lol

    3/10 in understanding or trolling idk which
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    Instead of blocking, have it so that the roulette stops you from getting the same thing in a row. For Alliance Raid, that can be the same tier (for instance if you got LotA, next Roulette you cannot get CT raids).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post

    "That is the point of roulette! just don't do them then!" Is not as good of an answer you some of you may think lol. It is very short sighted and not really well thought out. It's basically on par with the short sighted "just unsub!" arguement. Advice ppl have taken and look how well that's been going for the game.
    It's true, though. What's the point of a roulette if you don't have bullets once in awhile? Might as well change it's name if you want to remove the bullets of the roulette.

    Edit: So, if it no longer follows the definition of a roulette, what would you call selective randomization with minimal downsides? What would this que where you can unload the roulette bullets and not get shot be called?
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    Last edited by Uzephi; 01-09-2026 at 01:51 AM. Reason: Added edit tag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    It's true, though. What's the point of a roulette if you don't have bullets once in awhile? Might as well change it's name if you want to remove the bullets of the roulette.

    Edit: So, if it no longer follows the definition of a roulette, what would you call selective randomization with minimal downsides? What would this que where you can unload the roulette bullets and not get shot be called?
    Removing 3 duties out of 50 or more is still a roulette. Even with your bullet example, removing 1 bullet from the 6 still makes it a roulette, it just lessens the chances of getting shot. And there still be bullets in the chamber, your just not getting hit with the same one day after day after day. I would argue, knowing you are going to get hit with the same bullet, is what makes it actually less of a roulette.

    I know critical thinking skills are not something a lot of ppl possess but I dont understand why ppl are so against a qol adjustment that would be beneficial for everyone. lol And why do you care if I block out the CT raids if I would just take a 30 minute hit and leave or just not queue for it anyway? At least if I could block CT or Thousand Maws I could still have 15 alliance duties or 36 other leveling dungeons I could fill anyway, which would be helpful for ppl who are trying to queue for those as well because I would actually be queueing for the roulette, which is something I do not do at all now.

    Allowing us just a small conveniance, does nothing to hurt roulettes in the grand scheme of things, nor does it not make it a roulette. If anything it would be a boon to a horribly poorly designed system.
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    Last edited by MicahZerrshia; 01-09-2026 at 04:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Even with your bullet example, removing 1 bullet from the 6 still makes it a roulette.
    Think critically when this is the response I get? You do understand how Russian roulette works right? 1:6 to get shot, so removing the one means no possibility of being shot, no roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    Think critically when this is the response I get? You do understand how Russian roulette works right? 1:6 to get shot, so removing the one means no possibility of being shot, no roulette.
    Um, you do know that Russion Roulette is a very specific type of roulette, right? And not even limited to 1 bullet depending on how daring you want to be lol. There are also things like roulette boards and wheels that are full of options you can land on and blocking out a few of those options does not necessarily make it less of a roulette.

    So, yes, thank you for providing proof that critical thinking is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    There are also things like roulette boards and wheels that are full of options you can land on and blocking out a few of those options does not necessarily make it less of a roulette.
    So you'd take significantly less rewards like said roulette tables? That would be perfectly fine. Remove 3 duties from the que, reduce rewards by half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    It's true, though. What's the point of a roulette if you don't have bullets once in awhile? Might as well change it's name if you want to remove the bullets of the roulette.
    Getting 1 of X duties randomly constitutes a roulette. Nothing about blocking duties would make the roulettes any less of a roulette with the possible exception of the case where there is only 1 choice remaining.

    In any case I don't see the downside. A duty blacklist is essentially designed to solve the issue with Alliance Raids where there are seemingly two strong preference groups. One group wants to get CT and AFK, the other wants to get anything else and play their selected class. Let people select there preference and nothing is lost, and then in addition there could be more players willing to queue and help fill in for duties if they aren't dissuaded from signing up in the first place out of dread from getting something they dislike.

    For the other roulettes I don't see as clear a case for the benefits of duty blacklisting, but the downsides should be minimal, if they exist at all. There is also flexibility in how to approach blocked duties. A true blacklist would make it impossible to get a selected duty even if it was the only thing players were queuing for. Conversely a less strict graylist would try very hard to avoid queuing into something but give up if no other options were available. That would at least solve the problem of getting 4 level 100's in Satasha.
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