Rage of Halone

[Miguel85NYC]

Can we please get Rage of Halone back?!? It was Paladins best looking attack... Royal Authority looks lame IMO

[Rithy255]

I agree with this.

Also replace riot blade with savage blade

[VeyaAkemi]

A way to glam over upgraded skills with their previous iterations would be pretty great actually, BRD has a similar issue with a downgraded skill looking way cooler.

[Jeeqbit]

Rage of Halone still exists at level 50. It just upgrades to Royal Authority, which itself looks fine and was always fun to use. Both used to co-exist when we had enmity combos, but that became pointless once enmity combos were removed in Shadowbringers.

Now, Paladin did honestly feel better when the Rage of Halone, Royal Authority and Goring Blade combos existed. Because they were designed to look good from the ground up.

What went wrong with it is that Rage of Halone and Royal Authority originally combo'd off Savage Blade, and they now combo off Riot Blade, which wasn't the original design, so it looks weird doing the Riot Blade animation before them. It especially looks out of place that Riot Blade (a completely different colored action) does a strange blade poke before Rage of Halone at level 50.

However, the improvements to Atonement so that it is a full combo and not just repeating the same attack, does feel better, because they designed that to sequence properly.

So my conclusion here is that it would make sense from an animation standpoint for Riot Blade to be replaced with Savage Blade. However, Riot Blade was always the MP regeneration regeneration action which is rather important at higher levels, so maybe it could be an upgrade from Savage Blade at level 60.

[Mercury_Grey]

Rage of Halone still exists at level 50. It just upgrades to Royal Authority, which itself looks fine and was always fun to use. Both used to co-exist when we had enmity combos, but that became pointless once enmity combos were removed in Shadowbringers.

Now, Paladin did honestly feel better when the Rage of Halone, Royal Authority and Goring Blade combos existed. Because they were designed to look good from the ground up.

What went wrong with it is that Rage of Halone and Royal Authority originally combo'd off Savage Blade, and they now combo off Riot Blade, which wasn't the original design, so it looks weird doing the Riot Blade animation before them. It especially looks out of place that Riot Blade (a completely different colored action) does a strange blade poke before Rage of Halone at level 50.

However, the improvements to Atonement so that it is a full combo and not just repeating the same attack, does feel better, because they designed that to sequence properly.

So my conclusion here is that it would make sense from an animation standpoint for Riot Blade to be replaced with Savage Blade. However, Riot Blade was always the MP regeneration regeneration action which is rather important at higher levels, so maybe it could be an upgrade from Savage Blade at level 60.

I might be wrong but rage of halone was the enmity and ROyal athority was the damage combo back in StB? Its been years so i don't remember which was which wihtout checking the stormblood job patch notes

[Jeeqbit]

I might be wrong but rage of halone was the enmity and ROyal athority was the damage combo back in StB? Its been years so i don't remember which was which wihtout checking the stormblood job patch notes

Yes, Rage of Halone was the enmity combo, while Royal Authority was the damage combo.

Once you got Royal Authority, your goal was to use Rage of Halone as little as possible while still having enough enmity. Of course, enmity was rarely a problem if you kept tank stance up, so you could have just used Royal Authority the entire time in stance.

But it was better to use it out of stance, so to get all enmity generation established for the entire fight, you would be more inclined to just do an enmity combo 1-3 times in stance then switch to damage stance and use Royal Authority/Goring Blade for the rest of the fight. I say 3 times because in Stormblood it seemed to need more unless people used enmity reductions actions or had low DPS.

The issue is that a significant amount of tanks - non-raider types, casual types, RPer types, which was at least 50% of tanks, would "believe" in using tank stance "because they are tanks" and they would use it 100% of the time. Some tanks took it to extremes and spammed Rage of Halone in stance despite having access to Royal Authority.

So this is why we are here. Why tanks had to be simplified to a point where these 50% of tanks weren't confused on how to play it. SE created a linear path which entailed making Rage of Halone redundant.

[Mercury_Grey]

Yes, Rage of Halone was the enmity combo, while Royal Authority was the damage combo.

Once you got Royal Authority, your goal was to use Rage of Halone as little as possible while still having enough enmity. Of course, enmity was rarely a problem if you kept tank stance up, so you could have just used Royal Authority the entire time in stance.

But it was better to use it out of stance, so to get all enmity generation established for the entire fight, you would be more inclined to just do an enmity combo 1-3 times in stance then switch to damage stance and use Royal Authority/Goring Blade for the rest of the fight. I say 3 times because in Stormblood it seemed to need more unless people used enmity reductions actions or had low DPS.

The issue is that a significant amount of tanks - non-raider types, casual types, RPer types, which was at least 50% of tanks, would "believe" in using tank stance "because they are tanks" and they would use it 100% of the time. Some tanks took it to extremes and spammed Rage of Halone in stance despite having access to Royal Authority.

So this is why we are here. Why tanks had to be simplified to a point where these 50% of tanks weren't confused on how to play it. SE created a linear path which entailed making Rage of Halone redundant.

Honeslty once ShB came out i was annoyed i had to fix my entire hotbar. I miss sword stance. Wish PLD gauge had an option for visual que on our side. Use iron will but our gauge can b e the sword or shield

[Daudream]

just give us skill glamours already, I want my WHM to stop being a glitter cannon and I could probably make a long long list of old skills I'd love to see again even if just visually.

[Rithy255]

just give us skill glamours already, I want my WHM to stop being a glitter cannon and I could probably make a long long list of old skills I'd love to see again even if just visually.

Imagine being a stone and areo mage again, that would be great.

[Absurdity]

Can we please get Rage of Halone back?!? It was Paladins best looking attack... Royal Authority looks lame IMO

We've been saying the same thing about Power Slash and Butcher's Block since 5.0