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    Quote Originally Posted by SoapySan View Post
    It seems to be improving in a game is about how you play it, rather then what gear you have. Like I said this is my experience in wow. Improving = getting better gear = judged via dps meters. People post the top 1-10+ and they say, if you aren't on this list you need to leave the party. It's really obnoxious.
    i mean HOW UGLY is that please:




    congrats, you play a statistic game and not a RPG anymore.


    personally.. i want to enjoy the game.. the atmosphere and the design as well. in Final Fantasy XIII, VII, VIII i also dont need a damage meter for having the feel that i am a good player.. i know it, when i can beat the monsters more easily than before. and looking at my dmg numbers on my own.


    but there you go. "i did 41,992 k damage! im awesome" "ha i have a longer di** , i did 42k dmg" ;D i dont like that idea. im not playing an egoshooter or a game for the statistics.
    i know when i do good damage, therefore i dont need an addon.

    addons are for people who lack of this abillity. my opinion
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 08-21-2012 at 09:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i mean HOW UGLY is that please:




    congrats, you play a statistic game and not a RPG anymore.


    personally.. i want to enjoy the game.. the atmosphere and the design as well. in Final Fantasy XIII, VII, VIII i also dont need a damage meter for having the feel that i am a good player.. i know it, when i can beat the monsters more easily than before. and looking at my dmg numbers on my own.


    but there you go. "i did 41,992 k damage! im awesome" "ha i have a longer di** , i did 42k dmg" ;D i dont like that idea. im not playing an egoshooter or a game for the statistics.
    i know when i do good damage, therefore i dont need an addon.

    addons are for people who lack of this abillity. my opinion
    Yep, just "liked" your post. Need more gamers like you in the MMO world
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i mean HOW UGLY is that please:




    congrats, you play a statistic game and not a RPG anymore.


    personally.. i want to enjoy the game.. the atmosphere and the design as well. in Final Fantasy XIII, VII, VIII i also dont need a damage meter for having the feel that i am a good player.. i know it, when i can beat the monsters more easily than before. and looking at my dmg numbers on my own.


    but there you go. "i did 41,992 k damage! im awesome" "ha i have a longer di** , i did 42k dmg" ;D i dont like that idea. im not playing an egoshooter or a game for the statistics.
    i know when i do good damage, therefore i dont need an addon.

    addons are for people who lack of this abillity. my opinion
    Eh, the bottom part isn't really ugly. The top, however, is disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Eh, the bottom part isn't really ugly. The top, however, is disgusting.

    well even the bottom part. it looks like "stracraft" very spacy, and not wow'ish. its just unprofessional and not that good looking like the original WoW classic UI. for me its destroys the atmosphere. but it seems to be just me.

    fact is, that user interface has nothing left of WoW art style.


    but well.. the most important thing is that you have the option to see that you are 15 yards away from the mob *sarcasm off*
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 08-21-2012 at 10:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i mean HOW UGLY is that please:




    congrats, you play a statistic game and not a RPG anymore.


    personally.. i want to enjoy the game.. the atmosphere and the design as well. in Final Fantasy XIII, VII, VIII i also dont need a damage meter for having the feel that i am a good player.. i know it, when i can beat the monsters more easily than before. and looking at my dmg numbers on my own.


    but there you go. "i did 41,992 k damage! im awesome" "ha i have a longer di** , i did 42k dmg" ;D i dont like that idea. im not playing an egoshooter or a game for the statistics.
    i know when i do good damage, therefore i dont need an addon.

    addons are for people who lack of this abillity. my opinion
    I'm sorry, but this is not how you properly create your personal UI.

    Here, let me show you how its done:

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    Last edited by Risae; 08-21-2012 at 10:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    I'm sorry, but this is not how you properly create your personal UI.

    Here, let me show you how its done:

    Still think yours is a bit cluttered. Better than stock though. :P

    @Tonkra Don't want to use DMeters? Then don't. No one here is forcing you to. DMeters helps people who want to gauge the difference between several high end gear sets or just throwing in one item in the loop. You obviously don't care about this stuff so drop it but accept the fact that DMeters will be in the game in some form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i mean HOW UGLY is that please:




    congrats, you play a statistic game and not a RPG anymore.


    personally.. i want to enjoy the game.. the atmosphere and the design as well. in Final Fantasy XIII, VII, VIII i also dont need a damage meter for having the feel that i am a good player.. i know it, when i can beat the monsters more easily than before. and looking at my dmg numbers on my own.


    but there you go. "i did 41,992 k damage! im awesome" "ha i have a longer di** , i did 42k dmg" ;D i dont like that idea. im not playing an egoshooter or a game for the statistics.
    i know when i do good damage, therefore i dont need an addon.

    addons are for people who lack of this abillity. my opinion
    rpg part of the game will die and getting the biggest numbers will win. if i wanted to crunch numbers ill go get a degree in physics i just wanna play a game.

    well if it does end up like that might as well cancel sub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    rpg part of the game will die and getting the biggest numbers will win. if i wanted to crunch numbers ill go get a degree in physics i just wanna play a game.

    well if it does end up like that might as well cancel sub.
    Implying the UI has anything to do with "crunching numbers". People were "crunching numbers" on XI, while having the worse UI ever. Can't people understand once and for all that no matter how the game design or the UI are, there will be ALWAYS players whose goal is to min/max everything.

    Now, it is your choice to be part of a LS that is hardcore and will focus on success above everything (even if it means playing with Excel and parsers between two raids), or be in a LS that don't care and just play without worrying about numbers...

    For everything else (content you do in PUG / EXP / etc.) no one will ever care about numbers. (You may always have someone in your party being like "Oh I rox my DPS is over 9K" but that's about it and it was the same on XI every time a BLM would lend a big nuke...)

    You have 10 millions players on WoW, far from all of them are min/maxers and worry about their DPS, HPS, and so on. You have a lot of people who just play and enjoy the game without worrying about that. Those two ways of playing can coexist just fine.


    (Note: I didn't use "Play for fun" as an opposite of "Min/max" on purpose. Because crunching numbers is fun to some players )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i mean HOW UGLY is that please:




    congrats, you play a statistic game and not a RPG anymore.


    personally.. i want to enjoy the game.. the atmosphere and the design as well. in Final Fantasy XIII, VII, VIII i also dont need a damage meter for having the feel that i am a good player.. i know it, when i can beat the monsters more easily than before. and looking at my dmg numbers on my own.


    but there you go. "i did 41,992 k damage! im awesome" "ha i have a longer di** , i did 42k dmg" ;D i dont like that idea. im not playing an egoshooter or a game for the statistics.
    i know when i do good damage, therefore i dont need an addon.

    addons are for people who lack of this abillity. my opinion
    Oh you must win a lot of money at casinos being able to watch, count, add, divide AND play at the same time! Some kind of genius!

    FFXIV needs this. It's so painful playing right now because almost noone cares about their damage or DPS. Most of them don't even know how much better they could be.

    How is something that allows people to know whether they need to improve or not EVER a bad thing?
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    I never fail to remind people they need to improve numbers; I also am not afraid to show how bad I suck at WHM ^^
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