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  1. #111
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    I'm more surprised that in an MMO game's forum people have the opinion that player made addons can be viewed as something detrimental to the game.

    This community man... I have no words except this: You're entitled to your opinion but understand that you are WRONG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimonLoon View Post
    I'm more surprised that in an MMO community that player made addons can be viewed as something detrimental to the game.

    This community man... I have no words.
    Yeah, a community of people developing for and supporting the game is detrimental, but a community of constant neighsayers and anti-progressives is not.

    I don't know about this game sometime.
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    I hate User Mods. IMHO they are just cheating. Yes, there are mods that solely change controls and aesthetics, but most people use BS Mods that show them how to win at whatever they are doing and that is weak.

    People who use Mods are the lowest level of Gamer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I hate User Mods. IMHO they are just cheating. Yes, there are mods that solely change controls and aesthetics, but most people use BS Mods that show them how to win at whatever they are doing and that is weak.

    People who use Mods are the lowest level of Gamer.
    I can't tell if you're being ironic or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I can't tell if you're being ironic or not.
    Being a moron, judging by his post history imo.
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  6. #116
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    I hereby decree that consulting a guide or asking other players about what you should do or what your objectives are is cheating. You are the lowest level of Gamer if you don't bubble yourself off from all human contact and content outside of the game.
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    So you guys think it's okay to build and use a mod that turns everything in to wire frame so you can see through walls while running a dungeon?

    Or you think it's okay to build a mod that immediately identifies a Boss's Elemental and Damage type Weaknesses?

    Or you think it's okay to build a mod that calculates NM spawn times/locations?

    Or you think it's okay to build a mod that Auto-crafts?

    Or you think it's okay to build a mod that Auto-gathers?

    Or Auto-farms?

    It's bad enough that Quest Tracker has become mainstream and all MMOs now imediately point you to the location of your objective. You want the game to play itself for you too?

    What's the point of playing a game if all your going to do is modify it to make it easier? Don't try to pretend you wont. Moders are Moders and they all do the same thing.

    "I'll just add this quest tracker. Hmm.. maybe I'll get this enmity meter too. Oh look this Mod will let me automate a series of attacks, that will be convenient. Hmm I haven't been able to get through that maze.. Mayb ei'll just grab this wire frame mod too.."

    It's pathetic.

    Play the Friggin game.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I hereby decree that consulting a guide or asking other players about what you should do or what your objectives are is cheating. You are the lowest level of Gamer if you don't bubble yourself off from all human contact and content outside of the game.
    There is a very large difference between asking someone for help and programming the game to play for you.
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    In the end the developers of the game would determine the extent to which players could use mods to control their characters or automate processes. If they don't want you to be able to do something, it's as simple as not coding/giving you the API functions to do it.

    There is, in fact, a broad spectrum of mods that don't play for you:
    customized frames/aesthetics
    customized button maps
    damage meters
    enmity meters
    bag/inventory mods
    recipe book mods
    encyclopedia mods, such as for gathering
    chat mods

    WoW itself has some classic cases of mods whose API backbones were disabled because it was determined they trivialized certain game mechanics (one mod used to draw safe zones as transparent circles on the floor). If the developers undertake UI customization I'm sure they'd understand that they have a responsibility to maintain game integrity.
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