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    Rescue is an OGCD and can be weaved without affecting my healing. Typically, I just let DPS die to their own ineptitude though, because they gotta learn one way or the other. But if I need them alive, rescue is always better than healing them, because I need my healing for actual regular instances of damage and again, I'm not wasting GCDs on them. Moreover, I'm also not hardressing DPS, because again, they gotta learn.
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    Midcore is when you take a look at an Ultimate, nod along sagely to a guide and decide to do it when you get 12 months of uninterrupted vacation, which is to say: never.
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    I think at this point 0blivion has decided to play forum villain, until perhaps the Exarch cloak becomes available.

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    For the record, this is for DF only. In PF content, obviously I will raise, but I will not rescue because that's a hassle and I'm bad at the switcheroo thing where you rescue them to their spot and then rush to yours. Still working on it. But if a healer rescues me in a mind-numbingly boring EX because I am spacing out? Or even if I am not but they mean well, regardless of success? I'll be grateful!
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    Midcore is when you take a look at an Ultimate, nod along sagely to a guide and decide to do it when you get 12 months of uninterrupted vacation, which is to say: never.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I think at this point 0blivion has decided to play forum villain, until perhaps the Exarch cloak becomes available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    Rescue is an OGCD and can be weaved without affecting my healing. Typically, I just let DPS die to their own ineptitude though, because they gotta learn one way or the other. But if I need them alive, rescue is always better than healing them, because I need my healing for actual regular instances of damage and again, I'm not wasting GCDs on them. Moreover, I'm also not hardressing DPS, because again, they gotta learn.
    It's your own ineptitude if your letting your DPS die on purpose as a healer because you can't be bothered. You barely have to use your tools in most forms of content so it's not like you'll need to GCD save a DPS most of the time, and using a GCD to save someone is a damage gain, I'll even use clemency to save a DPS if I have to.

    I don't get the ego about not healing players for making mistakes but also playing the support role, you signed up to protect and support your allies when queuing for healer or tank, Play DPS if you don't want to help keep people up for making mistakes. It feels like the same weird mentality of "you pull you tank" like HOW dare someone pull ahead I'm the tank, for that I'll not tank anymore. I just don't get why people need some weird ego about being better then everyone else and griefing your team because you don't like they made a mistake or did something you don't like. Most people wont learn from being downed infact if you refuse to rez them they will not be learning much at all.

    Lastly but as I'll point out as your not against rescue that I do think its a good cooldown to help people know "yeah you should be not standing there" rather then simply healing a player. Rescue is a very good teaching tool which to your point of they've got to learn, this actually achieves in a effective way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post

    Lastly but as I'll point out as your not against rescue that I do think its a good cooldown to help people know "yeah you should be not standing there" rather then simply healing a player. Rescue is a very good teaching tool which to your point of they've got to learn, this actually achieves in a effective way.
    Getting damaged and getting a Vuln stack and even dying also accomplishes teaching someone that they shouldn't have been standing somewhere, more effective than rescue which may just disorient someone new to a duty.
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    Jeanne D'altaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I don't get the ego about not healing players for making mistakes but also playing the support role, you signed up to protect and support your allies when queuing for healer or tank, Play DPS if you don't want to help keep people up for making mistakes. It feels like the same weird mentality of "you pull you tank" like HOW dare someone pull ahead I'm the tank, for that I'll not tank anymore. I just don't get why people need some weird ego about being better then everyone else and griefing your team because you don't like they made a mistake or did something you don't like. Most people wont learn from being downed infact if you refuse to rez them they will not be learning much at all.
    Honestly, if anything it's more of an ego boost keeping alive someone who's decided to collect vuln stacks like candy vs just letting them die, plus it gives a bored healer something to do other than just pressing 1111111 with a break every 30s to press 3 or whatever you have your DoT mapped to. I've said before I actually prefer healing dungeons where my party is a little bit bad at the game or just new because it makes things more interesting and actually has me pressing my buttons.

    Anyway, to the actual topic at hand- if you don't want to get rescued, don't stand in the bad. If someone is rescuing to intentionally grief you, report them. If someone rescued you with good intentions but either fell a bit short on the "actually helping" part or you simply don't want them to use it on you, a "hey please dont do that again" can go a long way. If you're intentionally going to greed - tell them "im gonna greed here dw i know what im doing" or something along those lines. Shockingly, communication can go a long way rather than stewing in indignation and then whimpering on the forums about it later.
    And if you want to justify crashing out at someone using rescue on you, play black mage.
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