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    Player Brandr's Avatar
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    Bran' Bal
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Ironically, he only outs himself as being a bad player for a different reason because you can tell he only trolls/PKs others with Rescue based on his attitude.

    Healers don't trust us to be competent, I don't trust them to not be malicious. Fair is fair I suppose.
    Fair point.

    Because the way someone acts in one aspect of their life must be the way they act in all aspects, right? RIGHT!?

    Anyway, I highly disagree with removing Rescue, as well as any idea that suggests removing thinking, fast decision making and teamwork of any game.
    Usually I'm not the one using Rescue, I'm the one receiving it since I usually play as melee dps and tanking.

    I've been playing this game for about 9 years and I have never ever seen it being used in a stranger with ill intention (making someone take a hit purposefully). In friends, yes, but in a complete stranger in a random roulette dungeon? Never.

    Maybe what SE could do is adding a feature where one can choose accepting or rejecting all Rescues.
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I have seen before were healer falls over the edge and before they go over, they use rescue on the tank so they both fall off the edge. They really need to remove it or add option to reject it. Have seen it used with ill intention a lot of times.
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    Honey Slaughter
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    Excalibur
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I have seen before were healer falls over the edge and before they go over, they use rescue on the tank so they both fall off the edge. They really need to remove it or add option to reject it. Have seen it used with ill intention a lot of times.
    Why remove the entire ability when you can just make it so it doesn't pull people into pits? Other games with like abilities have done it.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Or people can stop whining. They will not go out of their way to add some option to "opt out". Edit: They will not go out of their way to add an ability to a role and then let people just make the skill pointless.

    Making rage threads every year isn't going to change that.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 01-01-2026 at 04:24 PM.

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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    While I personally don't care either way for Rescue being in the game vs not (there's times it comes in useful, and far more times where it isn't responsive enough/no reason to use it/etc)...

    There's been many times where 'we don't have space on the hotbars' has been cited as a reason that Healers shouldn't get more damage actions to bring some variety back to our moment-to-moment gameplay, between the damage instances that tend to be at least 10 GCDs apart on average.

    So, if we were given new damage actions that provide every Healer a different 'rotation' (and thus reinforce Job Identity, eg WHM is bursty, SCH is DOT heavy, SGE is fastpaced, AST focuses more on buffing allies and contributing via RDPS), and Rescue is the price we pay to have such an update, I'd happily say 'Goodbye Rescue, never knew ya'. However, if it's a case of 'remove Rescue, and replace it with nothing', we've already lost a lot of things and had them replaced with nothing already, so I would be against that, because we can already simulate that (having Rescue removed from our kit, and replaced with nothing) by simply not putting it on our bars


    On which note, another button that we can probably remove (and update to replace the functionality of) is Lucid Dreaming. It adds nothing to our gameplay to press the '3850 MP' button once per minute, and just punishes certain death timings harder than others. Instead, I'd rather see it gone to make room for, you guessed it, more interesting damage actions, and the MP economy it provides redistributed, either by increasing passive MP regeneration, increasing Piety's effect-per-statpoint, adding more interactions within the Job's kit wherein MP restoration effects trigger (eg akin to how Assize grants MP, SGE Addersgall spending grants MP, etc), reduction of certain MP costs, or some combination of all of the above
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers feel like they've fallen behind the times, designed for a game that no longer exists. I believe SE can update Healer designs to better fit the modern raiding environment they're now creating, offering optimizations for players to master, while still remaining accessible to new players to the role, all while enhancing Job Identity of each Healer by creating a unique gameplay loop for each individual Job in the role. A 'Role Reborn', if you will. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/504892 is my attempt to prove this belief is not only 'possible', but a very achievable goal for SE

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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Most people who object to being rescued are playing a caster.
    The others were standing in bad and thought they knew better.

    When I play healer, I will rescue you. I don't care if you die, I have a res button for a reason. I'm just trying to teach you not to stand there.

    Pavlov knew what he was doing.
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    Eldin Valesk
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    Lich
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    I mean, literally this. Most people getting rescued did something to warrant it.
    Some stand in the bad on purpose sometimes for uptime reasons. And because taking a vuln stack doesnt do anything anyway. After the next raidwide healers pop AOE heals anyway. And tbh that is literally why manaward exists for blm, so you can stand in an AOE without having to move. I do this all the time. Hell if someone rescues me i run back into the bad just to prove it doesnt change anything
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    Lorna Mardoll
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Goomba Fallacy
    I had to google this one.

    Also, MCH literally never has to stand still for any skill so if you're getting rescued that often you need to remap your hotbars or something so you can stay in motion more easily because not having uptime issues for movement reasons is like one of the only big advantages the job has.
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