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    G33kTek's Avatar
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    Mikju Ornitier
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    Adamantoise
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    Samurai Lv 100

    Noticed a new trend

    Lately I have seen this new trend where on a pull of mobs the dps and healer all start running off to the next part before the current mobs are finished... This needs to be addressed by the community to stop, you all need to stay finish off the mobs and then go. I have started to stop attacking the finals mobs as the tank to force the dps and healers to come back and finish the fight.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Just pull the mobs to the wall if this happens

    There is very little reason to stop exactly where the second pack is if people move on. If they don’t then stay, if they move then just move with them

    Honestly agro in 14 is so easy to control it’s not even worth trying to stand your ground in a situation like this even though you are technically in the right
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #3
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    G33kTek's Avatar
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    I have pulled right to the door or object blocking the path and still watched them disengage and wait
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    Avoca Do
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Wait im confused are you wall 2 walling or doing a pack at a time? Regardless the tank and healer set the pace so ppl shouldn't be running ahead if you're not comfortable... i hate the " just put the fries in the bag and grab enmity from dps" this is a teamwork game.. talk it out?
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    nguyentri11's Avatar
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    Flufferbut Butterbuns
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by G33kTek View Post
    I have pulled right to the door or object blocking the path and still watched them disengage and wait
    Wait so how are they running to the next part then if you're tanking them at the wall leading to the next part?
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Do you mean "the mobs are almost dead and the ranged DPS/healer are moving towards the next part/boss while still attacking so that they can get there faster"? That's nothing new, and nothing really to get upset about; most people are going to wait for you to pull the mobs anyway.
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    Player ViinaS's Avatar
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    Viina Sixstep
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    Shiva
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    That's just not possible.
    You pull the two packs and stand at the end and kill them before you can even progress further into the dungeon.

    How are dps and healers meant to run any further than the barrier.

    Unless you mean you only pull 1 pack and the others pull the others to speed things up.
    Then yeah, put your sprint on and get the other pack too.
    Ideally pull both packs and not only one to waste peoples time.

    Cause dps use all their cooldowns on the packs to kill things faster and its a waste to do so if its only one pack.
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    Boiger King
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    Reaper Lv 100
    If DPS and Healers are able to keep moving forward to grab another mob pack, it sounds like you might be only pulling single packs. I'd have faith in a healer if they're trying to grab more mobs for you that they're confident they're able to heal you through it. It's inefficient for everyone if you're not pulling enough mobs.
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    Sora Kagami
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    It's not a "new trend", it was a staple since like HW at least, maybe even ARR. If you don't wall-to-wall pull as a tank on lvl 100, you need to change a job. This is a standart, and every tank should be able to do it at that point in the game. To even REACH lvl 100 you need to play at least for 70 hours, if you didn't buy a skip. And if you did, well, that's your problem. Nobody should be forced to adapt for YOU specifically.

    I sometimes go ahead of tank as dps even when they actually do what they're supposed to (which is like 99% of time) just so i can use Arm's Length (slow on all enemies that hit you) so i can help them.

    This is not elitism or anything, i AM a tank main (partly), i know how to tank. I don't mind dps/healers pulling mobs when i'm on tank too. Even if they don't debuff the enemies like i do, that's practically a free mitigation, because they take a few hits before i take the aggro.

    Like, at this point, all you have to do to take aggro from dps/healer is to literally use a single aoe gcd. Nothing else. The aggro management has been dumbed down THAT MUCH. I don't understand why you even complain. Just get better. Like at any skill. Or switch jobs if you feel so threathened by the fact that dps pulls the mobs before you do.
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    Last edited by Sorabaka; 01-04-2026 at 05:48 AM.

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    Deejudanne's Avatar
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    Maple Rue
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    Twintania
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    Dancer Lv 100
    why though? every single tank that has at least 100 hours played runs wall to wall, no point in risking taking agro and dying because of that
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    These people really complaining about an MMORPG being grindy ICANT

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