Poor Viper

[NightHour]

I don't have any words other than: Viper 80% less AOE damage beyond the first

No, not poor Viper at all.


AOE Nerf but was buffed on Single Target.


Viper's were overpowered as hell in M6S adds phase, no wonder they're nerfing the AOE fall off.

[Chasingstars]

It was insanely overpowered at last raid tier so its deserved. I was barred from joining parties as a ninja because people were saying "jUsT pLaY ViPeR iT's BetTer!". Balance is important.

Oh no, ninja dethroned for once in being a job not required for a raid tier. The inhumanity.

[Deejudanne]

"Oh no, anyway" honestly doesn't matter at all, it's not noticeable in maps anyway since the range is still good enough since everyones pretty much sleeping in map contents

[Reginald_Cain]

Oh no, ninja dethroned for once in being a job not required for a raid tier. The inhumanity.

I know they don't balance around job difficulty but Ninja isn't as intuitive as Viper at all. It's nice to see it not be at the bottom of the melee list for that reason alone to me personally.

[NightHour]

Viper is not fine at all. Only reason why people feel like viper is fine is because its uncoiled fury is the most stupid skill in the entire game and allows on its own the viper to have a decent dps in savage because it's way too easy to have nearly full uptime. But if you look at FRU where uncoiled fury is mostly useless, you will see that viper is currently the worst job in the game if you do a role/role comparison between all dps jobs in the game.

It was already the worst melee when FRU came out, but at least at that time viper was pretty good on P4 so it was not so bad, but now viper is the worst in the game in FRU P4 because of the two consecutive nerfs that it got on its aoe. This nerf was deserved, but going from 35% to 20% in a single patch is in my opinion completely ridiculous, like cutting 43% of aoe part in a single patch? Are you crazy? They should have gone to like 25%. Anyway, that's not even the reason why the viper is so bad in FRU so i actually don't care about the nerf, viper was obviously a problem in aoe, we saw it on M6S. But clearly viper should have been given a lot of dps balancing and gameplay improvements to compensate, but no it still got absolutely nothing and is still the worst designed job in the game one year after FRU came out.

I don't actually care about FRU, but have people thought about the next ultimate ? Like, to my knowledge the next ultimate is supposed to come out in like 5 months, so the previous patch was to my knowledge the last patch that we'll get before the ultimate comes out, so we are actually 100% sure that the viper will be the worst job in the game on the next ultimate by a very big margin(unless this ultimate is extremely different from the others and mostly full uptime, but no reason for it to be the case), am I the only one to see it? Unless devs actually do a patch when the ultimate comes out, but again that would be stupid, why patch it at the very last moment while you could have done it right now to see if the changes are fine before the ultimate comes out ? I'm pretty sure absolutely nothing will be done when the ultimate comes out. I mean, viper should have already been rebalanced when FRU came out because it was obvious that it would be trash, so i really was expecting big changes for the viper when FRU came out, but it got absolutely nothing, and still got absolutely nothing one year later, while other jobs keep getting improved everywhere.

Viper is bad in FRU because of the sheer amount of downtime in that fight.