Calling All Tenacity Melders

[Reginald_Cain]

Even when trying to solo content, you're still going to want to prioritize increasing your damage. Often times what kills you when trying to solo old raids and extreme trials is not meeting DPS checks and getting 1-shot. No amount of tenacity will prevent that, but that extra bit of damage will.

That so? I wonder if the tenacity will just get deleted like strength materia did. If not they'll have to make it scale better than determination or do a lot of work designing content where the extra mit matters. However I dont see that happening.

[Carighan]

That so? I wonder if the tenacity will just get deleted like strength materia did. If not they'll have to make it scale better than determination or do a lot of work designing content where the extra mit matters. However I dont see that happening.

That's less of a tenacity and more of a secondary stat problem in general tbh.

There's 0 reason to keep the system with materials where we have choice/agency event around. Because .. we don't have choice or agency. There's one clear "correct" way of doing it, everything else is a trap for people who don't want to Google.

The only way of fixing this (and I'd love that) would be to make it so that none of the choices we can make affect our damage, or only super indirectly. That way, the choices would be for the players to make since there's nothing to optimise for.

[Chajii]

There's 0 reason to keep the system with materials where we have choice/agency event around. Because .. we don't have choice or agency. There's one clear "correct" way of doing it, everything else is a trap for people who don't want to Google.

I am enjoying my Tenacity Crit tank set for Mentor Roulette, I am not here to tell you to meld Tenacity so please don't remove the options that some players actually can benefit from.

Even within tanks, there are some that want Skill Speed and some don't; and if we look outside of tanks, healers have a few different Spell Speed or Pirty viable options, Summoner might want an extremely high Spell Speed for Lv70 contents and such.

If you feel like that you don't have the choice, perhaps consider trying more things that the game offers than just optimise for reclear. I agree that the degree of optimisation is low but it is not that we have absolutely no choice at all.

[Valence]

So for high end stuff still very bad, for goofing around solo tenacity might shine thanks for the detailed answers gang!

Sure but what kind of content would even require it? Dungeons? lol

Even deep dungeons have lost their teeth when it comes to everything that's not OHKO telegraphs...

I really fail to see what would threaten tanks with no tenacity today, so what would you even use tenacity for?

[Oizen]

Between how broken Tank CDs are, and then how broken Off tank CDs are, and then how broken healer CDs are on top of that, tenacity really just isn't required.

The only reason it ever gets melded is if it breaks a threshold where it gives slightly more damage than the other stats, which actually happened for this tier's prog set.

[Chasingstars]

Maybe 8.0 they will make tenactiy scale as good as determination and make determination a nontank stat. After all, its clear from dawntrail they want it to be valuable and actually used instead of every tank just going for the usual crit/det/dhit. Like the most unique secondary stat on a tank is skillspeed and thats more do to gunbreaker.