Thread: RDM 7.4 changes and job identity

In a scenario where every other job can do their bursts and you would be the odd one out sitting in your corner hitting embolden and just dual casting, do you really feel that's fair or not? Granted there are not many scenarios like that right now, but i think the changes were meant for the upcoming savage tier and potentially new ultimate. There were some fights where it was tough but not impossible to get off a melee and quickly get out again. P12s p1 or p10s come to my mind. But if getting off the melee becomes an impossibility due to the fights mechanics, i'd rather be able to do my burst from range. It is still just speculation if there will be fights where it will be impossible but the new extreme is already kinda tough to get the melee off in some scenarios.

In that case the implementation of a “positional” was the better system. Max potency from melee range but you can burst from afar for slight less damage. As it is now you have zero incentive to be in melee at all during burst. You just stand there and unload everything for 30 seconds

Originally Posted by Kishin12345

In a scenario where every other job can do their bursts and you would be the odd one out sitting in your corner hitting embolden and just dual casting, do you really feel that's fair or not? Granted there are not many scenarios like that right now, but i think the changes were meant for the upcoming savage tier and potentially new ultimate. There were some fights where it was tough but not impossible to get off a melee and quickly get out again. P12s p1 or p10s come to my mind. But if getting off the melee becomes an impossibility due to the fights mechanics, i'd rather be able to do my burst from range. It is still just speculation if there will be fights where it will be impossible but the new extreme is already kinda tough to get the melee off in some scenarios.

Just go in as fake melee if you're an RDM in savage.

Originally Posted by Miradelle

Just go in as fake melee if you're an RDM in savage.

That would be the ideal way to handle it, but thanks to the DPS number philosophy shift since Endwalker of melees generally having to be the highest damaging role (sometimes by a large margin), it kind of leads to a soft-forcing of running two true Melee DPS and having Red Mage fight for a ranged position instead.

If damage values were more condensed between DPS roles similar to how it was in Shadowbringers and Stormblood, then running a melee RDM would be far more viable since you can safely play an additional two ranged jobs for the R1/R2 position without sacrificing a lot of damage potential for not running double melee.

But that would require a philosophy shift on part of the balancing team. Red Mage and Summoner utlities are overtaxed to hell anyhow.