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  1. 01-07-2026 06:19 PM #11
    Supersnow845
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    This is literally one of the biggest change they've done to the job since Stormblood launch. And it's a good change.
    I’d say plenary is a good change but the lily’s aren’t and plenary is more like a “it doesn’t fit WHM but shield healers are so much better it’s kinda needed”

    Starting with 3 Lily’s to immediately burn them for misery just feels like pointless overheal for a system that barely works
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess
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  2. 01-07-2026 06:36 PM #12
    Carighan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Starting with 3 Lily’s to immediately burn them for misery just feels like pointless overheal for a system that barely works
    I mean that's how you use Lilys anyways? You want to always have a blood lily ready for burst, and quick, do you use 3 GCDs of lilies for a second blood lily in the opening burst? Without looking it up on Balance!
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  3. 01-15-2026 05:38 AM #13
    ForsakenRoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    I mean that's how you use Lilys anyways? You want to always have a blood lily ready for burst, and quick, do you use 3 GCDs of lilies for a second blood lily in the opening burst? Without looking it up on Balance!
    Depends on hindsight, if the Misery Crits or DHits then yes, otherwise it's better to have just used 4 Glare3's and rolled Crit/DH chance 4 times each. A single Crit/DHit Glare out of the 4, puts the 4 Glares ahead of 3 Lilies+Misery, if the Misery dies not Crit or DHit. You can't know ahead of time if the Misery will Crit or not, though, so it's a moot point

    It's presumably quite dependent on party comp, ie if you have a SCH and DRG, your chances of getting a Crit Misery are a lot higher so you'd try for it. Though I can also see 'try for it regardless and if you don't get it, reset until you do' being a thing
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