Was BLM not enough?

[Voidmage]

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Oh, don't get me wrong.
I know there exist people there who actually like those simplifications and like I said, the japanese side is at least partially responsible for things like Healers.
The BLM changes when they were implemented though resulted in a big outcry to the point they even made additional threads which they usually don't do and even made a thread to post the opinions from us.

What I am basically trying to say in bad english is that it was negative compared to how they usually write and only the 7.0 story and Forked Tower actually were comparable to that ( though I do admit I haven't looked into their forum for some time now).
The japanese forum is pretty much known over there as a positive echo chamber same as this one here is known as a negative one.
The other sides are more "flowery" in their word choices.
There is a reason why we actually got Ice Paradox back despite it not bringing anything to the design table. the outcry over there and here was simply too big.

The BLM changes though actually are first and foremost of the devs own decision for their fight design or I think a better way to phrase it would be, that they choose feedback that aligns with what they actually want themselves (which is pretty often the way of less work for themselves), no matter how many people ask for it or how many likes such a suggestion has. They basically did it and then hoped for the complaints to go away.
Sadly though the player numbers of the job rose at the cost of SMN.
People always think they listen to the japanese side but in truth, they simply listen to no one really if there isn't an extreme outcry that reaches the media on some way or impacts their earnings.

I have no real hope for 8.0 regarding BLM tbh.
What I do disagree though is to see the fault with the casuals alone because a very good number of job changes actively came from raiders and content creators. Maybe not regarding BLM but definitely in regards to the tanks for example.

[mallleable]

It extends the range of exactly one melee combo every 2 minutes. While not ideal, it might be fine.

[SyferU]

So you now have the flexibility to have ONE of your melee combos being at ranged allowing you to play around mechanics that have you position outside without cucking your 2min. What exactly is less challenging?

[virianna]

Is it really lobotomization?

You get your melee combo once every 2 minutes 'for free' when all buffs are out without sacrificing it because 'oh well mechanic needs to be resolved first and if i go in melee 1 or melee 2 will die / mechanic will not resolve'

[Azurarok]

not exactly a lobotomization, but it is bending the job for their holy fight design yet again so it's still not exactly a great sign.

[Fawkes]

not exactly a lobotomization, but it is bending the job for their holy fight design yet again so it's still not exactly a great sign.

It's almost time for people hoping for 8.0 job changes to fix anything to start hoping for 9.0 job changes.

[Asari5]

as someone who only plays redmage in casual content whenever i want to play a melee mage i really dont like this change.

sure it might be convenient for savage raiders who want a good pars... oh no wait thats not allowed but thats pretty much the reason, no?

but savage is not everything! jobs should make fun in casual content! and that includes living out the job fantasy. (anyone having flashbacks to jumps and dragoons?)

[Miki_L]

I honestly feel that if RDM launched with this change, nobody would have really thought about it. They would've just thought "Oh so my buff extends my magical rapier attacks? Neato". That's because at one point RDM was considered the mobile, easy caster. I think the real tragedies here are BLM and SMN.

I think making the backflip not the optimal damaging OGCd did more to harm Red Mage's identity than this.

[Supersnow845]

I honestly feel that if RDM launched with this change, nobody would have really thought about it. They would've just thought "Oh so my buff extends my magical rapier attacks? Neato". That's because at one point RDM was considered the mobile, easy caster. I think the real tragedies here are BLM and SMN.

I think making the backflip not the optimal damaging OGCd did more to harm Red Mage's identity than this.

RDM’s design from day one, even so far as how alisaie plays it is to jump in sword combo backflip out then do big magic finisher

At this point we aren’t even playing the job how alisaie plays it

[Shistar]

That's just the top of the page, you should be able to scroll down and see the patch notes.

... Oh! lmfao, you're right. My only excuse is that I am sleepy, saw that and apparently I couldn't be bothered to move my sight not even a millimeter down. Embarassing!