Should high level players keep their unlocked abilities when they down-sync?

[CaptainLagbeard]

Honestly, they should probably go and re-balance ARR in general and rework the ARR progression... And I've said it before in other thread, they probably could shrink ARR down from 1-50 to like 1-30 by getting rid of levels that don't unlock anything new.

[SaltyDaddy]

My take: Seeing cool abilities in low lvl dungeons would make me hyped to get to that level. I remember my first Sastasha and how I really wanted to get to Shadowbringers to enjoy all the cool stuff. But people who don't know what is at the end, it is boring gameplay.

[Mikey_R]

They could introduce some weaker versions of abilities at lower levels so that the number of abilities you gain between... say, 30 to 100 doesn't increase very much.

It is something that is bought up in topic similar to this all the time and seems to be a good medium between making the lower levels more interesting whilst not bringing the massive potency from later buttons into the low levels.

Many jobs have also had actions removed, so, if it fits, they could even use those animations to keep production time low. Things like Phlebotomize on Dragoon could be a low level Gierskogul, Monk's old fists could be lesser versions of their current Riddles etc.

[Atreus]

Yes, this topic comes up frequently.

Yes, we should be able to utilize our abilities in synced content.

Yes, their potencies need to be tapered and limited to not exceed the maximum potency you're able to accomplish at the level you're synced at. If I'm in an ARR dungeon, my Confiteor combo should not be ripping out at 1000 potency. Still infinitely more fun than 1.. 2... 1... 2.

The newbies will be fine. Please don't defend the new player experience as if it's amazing right now.


Also to give you an idea, here's another large thread about this that links other reddit threads. It is a hot topic.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...very-expansion

[Aco505]

I think that a better solution would be to improve the leveling experience when it comes to learning abilities.

Jobs should have a baby form of their max level kit by 50 and almost the same kind of feeling at 60 with 70 being the very last point at which you learn all the stuff that matters.

MNK or RDM do this very well right now, having most of their kit by 60 and finalizing it by 70 with further levels simply expanding it but keeping the same core.

They simply need to iterate on this idea and bring it to lower levels. RPR learns Plentiful Harvest too late, VPR gets Reawaken too late, etc. and it's not a surprise that they're some of the worst jobs at levels 70 and 80.

All jobs should have at least one AoE by level 18 although it's still okay if some are stronger at certain levels than others (e. g. DNC being quite good due to the raw power of Standard Finish at earlier levels).

Overall, this would make job gameplay feel better for both high level players and newcomers.

[Luca_]

They could drop the potency on all my higher level abilities by 95% when synced down and I would still take that option every time just to play with a complete kit.

What we have now is the worst option for everyone. The skill distribution across levels is uneven and makes leveling boring for new players while veterans are usually locked out of 3/4 of their job. I wouldn't be so sick of getting ARR content in the vast majority of my roulettes if I could at least press more buttons than 1-2-1-2-1-2.

[SaltyDaddy]

They could drop the potency on all my higher level abilities by 95% when synced down and I would still take that option every time just to play with a complete kit.

What we have now is the worst option for everyone. The skill distribution across levels is uneven and makes leveling boring for new players while veterans are usually locked out of 3/4 of their job. I wouldn't be so sick of getting ARR content in the vast majority of my roulettes if I could at least press more buttons than 1-2-1-2-1-2.

But what to do with healers? Their potency scalling is completly different.

[LaylaTsarra]

No they shouldn't.

[Kelg]

I want to say yes, but only if they can actually find a way to balance it. I hate playing low level content because jobs are way more fun at max level.