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    How to fix outscaling level 70 Ultimates

    We're at the point where UCOB and most especially UWU are outscaled to the extent where you can easily kill P1 of UWU before Garuda awakens, skip Ifit dashes, skip Mario Kart in Titan and cheese Predation. In Cob you can skip divebombs, push twisters and have a hundred deaths.

    I think a good solution to this would be for SE to release a new version of both these fights scaled up to level 100. The new level 100 versions could offer UWU/UCOB weapons for the jobs that don't have them (DNC, GNB, RPR, SGE, PCT, VPR) while still retaining the original level 70 ultimates exactly as they are now while just not offering the new weapons.

    This way the fights don't change. Literally nothing changes UCOB and UWU are right there as they always have been, but there are new scaled up versions that have been rebalanced for lvl 100. These will offer a new challenge for all the PF gremlins with 2000+ totems, people who want the new weapons, or just don't like playing at level 70.
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    Last edited by Hanzz96; 12-08-2025 at 11:25 PM.

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    Saphir Amariyo
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    I'd like more scaled up content in general. Unreal was a great idea except for the fights being removed after a set period of time.
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    Lorna Louvia
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    Crystal Tower's raid series remains broken after years thanks to the gear scaling system just not cranking stuff down enough, too.

    It's not just the highest level content that's messed up with scaling.
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    Yeah CT is a mess as well but my point with the 70 ultimates is that the missing weapons for new jobs is incentive to actually address the problem
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Scaling up content is a bandaid fix akin to scoop water out of a sinking boats full of holes. Like unreal it brings the benefit to give access to full job kits, true, but that powercreeping issue isn't just a problem of old ultimates but all content. They need to do something about older content that would address all of this at once at the source.

    Also I did UwU in late ShB and we could already kinda skip Garuda awakening... ShB really messed up the game.
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    Yeah but giving a new verson that's rebalanced seems to be the best we can hope for. I hit my ifit nail with standard step and it exposed before awakening the other day and you can just stand in the predation aoes and shield/mitigate to farm LB. The 70's are a mess but SE won't fix the underlying cause.
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    To be honest, l like these power creep. Makes the content more accessible to people like me. People l play with do still fail dps check on nael from time to time.
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    Which is why the originals would still exist but for everyone wanting a challenge or the new weapons there would be a scaled up version. Everyone wins.
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