You think?

[Aidorouge]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

[AlessaImpera]

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

Are you ok?

[Aidorouge]

Are you ok?

Well, I tried to explain where you erred and how your own logic could be used against you, but you seem committed to whatever act you're trying to play for responses.

Thankfully it's equally easy to block people on the forums when they're an eyesore here too.

[AlessaImpera]

Well, I tried to explain where you erred and how your own logic could be used against you, but you seem committed to whatever act you're trying to play for responses.

Thankfully it's equally easy to block people on the forums when they're an eyesore here too.

the only thing you really did, is showcase your exhibitionistic tendencies and an unhealthy persecution fetish

[RedLolly]

the only thing you really did, is showcase your exhibitionistic tendencies and an unhealthy persecution fetish

This reads like you would wear a full diving suit in the swimming pool and get angry when others say it's impractical and odd. It's bizarre and socially out of place for that environment, but since its proper swim wear in other contexts and modest, the OTHERS are wrong for their confusion and for dressing in trunks and bikinis.

Like, the only word that comes to mind is puritanical. And your avatar is really cool! I like the style you went with! Nothing about her would be changed unless YOU wanted her to!

[AlessaImpera]

This reads like you would wear a full diving suit in the swimming pool and get angry when others say it's impractical and odd. It's bizarre and socially out of place for that environment, but since its proper swim wear in other contexts and modest, the OTHERS are wrong for their confusion and for dressing in trunks and bikinis.

Like, the only word that comes to mind is puritanical. And your avatar is really cool! I like the style you went with! Nothing about her would be changed unless YOU wanted her to!

Well, the outfit isnt the problem, but the weird self flaggelation, public display and calling himself out for playing a dark skinned miqo, while arguing with someone else that pretty much plays a character with the same race and similiar skintone. It felt a bit extra and confused to say the least, like trying to pin some other dislikes onto me, while completely ignoring the fact, that my own character pretty much looks the same. It just feels like trying to force something extra, when theres already plenty of things one could criticize me for, without inventing something I potentially might dislike.

[NecroprincessCleo]

Well, the outfit isnt the problem, but the weird self flaggelation, public display and calling himself out for playing a dark skinned miqo, while arguing with someone else that pretty much plays a character with the same race and similiar skintone. It felt a bit extra and confused to say the least, like trying to pin some other dislikes onto me, while completely ignoring the fact, that my own character pretty much looks the same. It just feels like trying to force something extra, when theres already plenty of things one could criticize me for, without inventing something I potentially might dislike.

using that logic should i just not play any character since not one of them goes pale enough to my irl skin tone, Should I loose all access to any hairstyle that isn't covering one eye in game? Should I not walk around when the sun is up in game since it gives me migrains irl and makes me feel drained? Should I only be allowed races thats the same height...

also how do you not know they dont have that skintone irl.. my ... um ya plays a orc on wow should he not be allowed to since he isnt green?

ill be in more trouble irl for chatting on here while i still can but i saw this on my phone was so stupid and irrating i couldnt resist even though i know when he gets home _-_

although after tonight i might not be able to play anything on here.. unless i can out smart w/e plan he has

[Aidorouge]

This reads like you would wear a full diving suit in the swimming pool and get angry when others say it's impractical and odd. It's bizarre and socially out of place for that environment, but since its proper swim wear in other contexts and modest, the OTHERS are wrong for their confusion and for dressing in trunks and bikinis.

Like, the only word that comes to mind is puritanical.

My intent with my post is that there's people out there that get very judgey about how other people create or dress-up their characters and then think they can police what they can and can not have, and this Alessa person doesn't sound any different from the folks who give people flak for playing something outside their IRL gender or race. Likewise, if they're going to insist other people have to customize themselves based on what they deem "correct" then they should be aware that people may find every facet of their own character objectionable from their appearance to their outfit. I all but called their hat and glasses awful to emphasize that point, but I didn't deem them worth blocking until they insisted on being rude anyway.

The self-deprecation is because I'm not the kind of person who thinks their butt doesn't stink and that I do indeed seem to have a character that checks off every box for what some people consider a "negative Miqo'te stereotype" minus the beeknees while AFKing in Limsa or some venue (I have way better things to do and don't RP in general). My whole point is that people can do what they want with their characters and if I don't care for a certain kind of customization, and there is a lot I don't like, then I just don't use it myself, I don't go on some tear about them being "trashy" or equating their actions to bringing down some imaginary neighborhood or the value of humanity or whatever they were trying to get at because tattoos and piercings upset them. I don't even like tattoos or piercings myself, but I don't attack the people who do.