You think?

[Aidorouge]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

[TheRealDesastr]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

This is such a pathetic HOA karen thing to say including everything else you've been spouting. I can use the same argument against any of the aethetics you like and demand to never see it or have anything you want added because 'to me it's an ugly eyesore and therefore doesn't belong in the game'. What even is this logic...? Why do you, specifically, get to dictate what's 'trashy' in a video game where we have dyes that range from vomit to pink eyesore and everything in between...?

Because even if you do have some ridiculous notion of authority, you've failed. If everything in the game is something you already like... that's an obvious lie and you're already spouting pointless nonsense. This whole 'higher authority' attitude is laughable. I couldn't imagine being as miserable as 'well I don't like the style and if I see it it ruins my experience so it shouldn't exist and other people are the problem',what a way to live.

This community, I swear to gods.

[RedLolly]

This has to have been the funniest forum thread ive ever read in my entire life LOL

Right!? What an insane turn.

[Destati]

Piercings and tattoos would be awesome to have but I don't expect them to implement them, let alone do it well.

But holy moly are there some joyless pieces of work in here. There's a cool thing you can do with your eyes, I do it every time I see something I don't like - look away and move on.

[Ajisaii]

There's a cool thing you can do with your eyes, I do it every time I see something I don't like - look away and move on.

I do this with male auras

[Destati]

I do this with male auras

Charming. But you do you.

[TheRealDesastr]

....I wasn't aware the FFXIV community hated goth/alt style this much. A bit disheartening to see all of the extremely hateful comments in this thread, not going to lie.

I think there's a lot of both extremely silly looking and extremely boring looking things in the game, and a lot of styles I personally can't stand. I don't like the cutesie pink aesthetic many go for on my characters, but celebrate them being able to create the things they enjoy.

Why are tattoos & facial piercings such a point of contention...? I'd personally love if stuff like that was added to the game and would use it. I understand not liking the style even if I personally disagree, but to claim it's the 'most ugly trend' in a paraphrased way is a bit much.

Do people hate RPR and DRK looks in general or something?

Can someone explain to me why there's such a deep dislike for the style without just being insanely insulting? Why would these be a problem when all these mascot costumes and other silly things aren't? And if you do have a problem with a lot being added... I mean, same, but you don't see me putting down people who use it? Even if personally I really dislike most of the new hair added?

I'm just trying to understand why people feel the need to flip out over the idea of creating characters with certain styles and being like 'I DONT WANT THAT ON MY SCREEN' well tough, there's a ton of things I also don't but you don't see me demanding the removal of or putting down people who want it.

It takes me 5min in Limsa to get a headache from all these people trying so hard to play IMVU.

Like I get it most of people are narcissistic as hell, but it kills the charm of the game day after day with all of these Kpop and harnesses fits.

This exact wording itself is coming off as narcissistic as hell though. What 'charm of the game'...? Why is what other people use for their characters such a problem, and why not find an FC with like-minded people in that case who restrict glams, I guess? Like, you're claiming others are narcissistic for liking certain looks while you're here complaining about their choices. I think you need to look in the mirror.

For a community bragging about being so kind and open, the things said in this thread make me laugh at that notion. I'll chalk it up to the forums just being a toxic wasteland in general given some of the complaints I've seen here (and likes on them) when lurking.

(And yes, I'm aware OP is derpy and spouting nonsense in many ways, which is frustrating to those of us who want stuff like this don't come across as some irritating teen, but still.)

[NecroprincessCleo]

....I wasn't aware the FFXIV community hated goth/alt style this much. A bit disheartening to see all of the extremely hateful comments in this thread, not going to lie.

I think there's a lot of both extremely silly looking and extremely boring looking things in the game, and a lot of styles I personally can't stand. I don't like the cutesie pink aesthetic many go for on my characters, but celebrate them being able to create the things they enjoy.

Why are tattoos & facial piercings such a point of contention...? I'd personally love if stuff like that was added to the game and would use it. I understand not liking the style even if I personally disagree, but to claim it's the 'most ugly trend' in a paraphrased way is a bit much.

Do people hate RPR and DRK looks in general or something?

Can someone explain to me why there's such a deep dislike for the style without just being insanely insulting? Why would these be a problem when all these mascot costumes and other silly things aren't? And if you do have a problem with a lot being added... I mean, same, but you don't see me putting down people who use it? Even if personally I really dislike most of the new hair added?

I'm just trying to understand why people feel the need to flip out over the idea of creating characters with certain styles and being like 'I DONT WANT THAT ON MY SCREEN' well tough, there's a ton of things I also don't but you don't see me demanding the removal of or putting down people who want it.



This exact wording itself is coming off as narcissistic as hell though. What 'charm of the game'...? Why is what other people use for their characters such a problem, and why not find an FC with like-minded people in that case who restrict glams, I guess? Like, you're claiming others are narcissistic for liking certain looks while you're here complaining about their choices. I think you need to look in the mirror.

For a community bragging about being so kind and open, the things said in this thread make me laugh at that notion. I'll chalk it up to the forums just being a toxic wasteland in general given some of the complaints I've seen here (and likes on them) when lurking.

(And yes, I'm aware OP is derpy and spouting nonsense in many ways, which is frustrating to those of us who want stuff like this don't come across as some irritating teen, but still.)

not really derpy or nonsense when trying to make a point ~_~ ... you obviously don't want it strong enough to put in the effort (and really teen i dont come across like that at all.. just stating facts that typically people who go against are those old sacks of meat who started things like the satanic panic) plus none of its nonsense because i can prove it all lol

[TheRealDesastr]

not really derpy or nonsense when trying to make a point ~_~ ... you obviously don't want it strong enough to put in the effort (and really teen i dont come across like that at all.. just stating facts that typically people who go against are those old sacks of meat who started things like the satanic panic lol

Your choice of hair is the personal eyesore I'm talking about (which is subjective and I'm sure looks good to you and plenty others) and yet I support your use of it.

Also yes, your text tone is coming across as incredibly immature.

As for me, short of posting I want facial piercings and more tattoo options with my 'ted talk', no, I'm not going to put in more effort, I have better things to do and know it's unlikely they pay attention to the forums at all.

I'm just posting to make a point. Good luck.

[NecroprincessCleo]

Your choice of hair is the personal eyesore I'm talking about (which is subjective and I'm sure looks good to you and plenty others) and yet I support your use of it.

Also yes, your text tone is coming across as incredibly immature.

As for me, short of posting I want facial piercings and more tattoo options with my 'ted talk', no, I'm not going to put in more effort, I have better things to do and know it's unlikely they pay attention to the forums at all.

I'm just posting to make a point. Good luck.

I mean ffxiv doesn't have the right highlight combo to go for what I was going for believe me I tried for hours to get a good mix of purple, and black for more of the feel i wanted but doesn't work..

Ill give you that immature thing because i cant help that

Tbh if you make yourself loud enough you can force people to listen ~_~ even if they don't want to pay attention