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  1. #21
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    GiR_Zippo's Avatar
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    Nonoko Yamada
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailyn_Swiftheart View Post
    The best solution, IMO, would be to use an anti-cheat software like Easy AntiCheat or Xigncode. Black Desert Online uses one of them (I don't recall which, as they've switched between the two over the years), and they never have issues with botting. The only RMT issues BDO has are the piloting solicitors, and those people at least use a human to do all the work.
    As a cybersecurity, OSINT, and SIGINT one you should know Easy AntiCheat or Xigncode are basically rootkits and rootkits are a bad idea and not always working, as you should have seen in BF6.
    Oh not to mention they sometimes not playing well together and sometimes even prevent to install a game with an other anticheat...
    That's great so I have uninstall XIV when I'm installing CoD or BF6, perfect.
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    Last edited by GiR_Zippo; 12-05-2025 at 09:29 PM.

  2. #22
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    Fey Favilla
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    I would much rather have a better, bigger team to moderate this kind of stuff. Humans make errors as well, but usually that is then individual cases that can be rectified fairly easily and won't hit people in massive, sweeping waves and when those players then try to appeal they are auto-denied by the same system. You do not need to hire specialists to figure out who is doing RMT shenanigans and who is botting, and if there are fringe cases where it is not clear you can always send those to individual specialists.
    If monitoring software is employed it should just flag players for review. Create a few extra jobs, make the community happy for a fairly low cost. They just keep saving costs at all the wrong ends.
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  3. #23
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeyFavilla View Post
    I would much rather have a better, bigger team to moderate this kind of stuff. Humans make errors as well, but usually that is then individual cases that can be rectified fairly easily and won't hit people in massive, sweeping waves and when those players then try to appeal they are auto-denied by the same system. You do not need to hire specialists to figure out who is doing RMT shenanigans and who is botting, and if there are fringe cases where it is not clear you can always send those to individual specialists.
    If monitoring software is employed it should just flag players for review. Create a few extra jobs, make the community happy for a fairly low cost. They just keep saving costs at all the wrong ends.
    Hell, some of us would do it for free.

    Give me the power to go under the ground of Maduin gaoling bots and their accounts and I'll turn whack-a-lalafell-mole into my own version of a FATE/hunting mark chain event. At least it would give me something "solo and casual" to do when I log in, SE could even pay me in gil/company seals/bi-color gems/tomestones if they really wanted to, lol.
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  4. #24
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    Mayu Amakura
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    Recognizing all those patterns doesn't require you to be a genius. A random casual player will sooner or later see that something's amiss and will know its a bot. Some of them aren't bots but real players who just afk the game with automation and do something else. Then they will finish it and go play normally. Those are half bots and a lot of mentors do this. Real bots are those that never participate in any action other than farming. There are also bots underground farming and pulling mobs. Devs know this but don't care. They only implemented "anti-cheat" in deep dungeons to prevent coordinates jumping. You can still use cheat engine to move yourself to another position within the game without triggering any system btw, it still works.

    Bots give a lot of money through subscription and banning them would mean a massive playerbase down.

    Also this posts seems like it was just created so you could tell us what you have from degrees and stuff. Really don't see how that matters here, but it's one of those posts.
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  5. #25
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    Kailyn Swiftheart
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Hell, some of us would do it for free.

    Give me the power to go under the ground of Maduin gaoling bots and their accounts and I'll turn whack-a-lalafell-mole into my own version of a FATE/hunting mark chain event. At least it would give me something "solo and casual" to do when I log in, SE could even pay me in gil/company seals/bi-color gems/tomestones if they really wanted to, lol.
    I would absolutely do it for free too.
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  6. #26
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    Kailyn Swiftheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    Recognizing all those patterns doesn't require you to be a genius. A random casual player will sooner or later see that something's amiss and will know its a bot. Some of them aren't bots but real players who just afk the game with automation and do something else. Then they will finish it and go play normally. Those are half bots and a lot of mentors do this. Real bots are those that never participate in any action other than farming. There are also bots underground farming and pulling mobs. Devs know this but don't care. They only implemented "anti-cheat" in deep dungeons to prevent coordinates jumping. You can still use cheat engine to move yourself to another position within the game without triggering any system btw, it still works.

    Bots give a lot of money through subscription and banning them would mean a massive playerbase down.

    Also this posts seems like it was just created so you could tell us what you have from degrees and stuff. Really don't see how that matters here, but it's one of those posts.
    Bot subscriptions are a miniscule amount of money compared to the subscriptions of actual players. The difference is, the bots genuinely hurt the game.

    And no, this is not "one of those posts." I don't even have a degree. You can leave your snide remarks at the door, or you can post elsewhere.
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  7. #27
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    Vee Oh
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    I tried to say Helluuuu to a bot, it didnt answer.
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