Demolition Timers should be adjusted

[Solowing]

Well then it's a good thing that SE has absolutely no housing items on their cash shop. Esp some crazy high number, like 180 housing items and growing or something crazy like that and esp ones that are not available in the actual game. Nope not SE. not at all.

Are most not past event items that were offered free if you completed the events they were featured in? They are vaulted then sold ,which should encourage us to play the events as they release, or they'll be a paid shop item at a later date. You have the chance to get them free.

Also the Shop is tucked away away from the game itself. I am one who really appreciates the approach that was done with Dream fitting. Allowing players to view Mogstation sets, but keeping the item shop out of the game itself. IMO its very non-invasive. (dream fitting Mogstation Housing items please?)

I got Lightnings Hair and Gloves free, after I join being a newbie and just helping out Lightning, whenever she popped up in La Nosea . I heard about the firestorm, her hairstyle was event exclusive and whoever had it, had it. Whoever didn't was SoL and couldn't obtain it. Eventually they put her hairstyle on the Store. Which feels fair. Get it while its free now, or purchase it later (housing items included)

[MicahZerrshia]

Are most not past event items that were offered free if you completed the events they were featured in? They are vaulted then sold ,which should encourage us to play the events as they release, or they'll be a paid shop item at a later date. You have the chance to get them free.)

The key is if you completed the events they were featured in. For new players there is over a decade's worth of furniture locked exclusively behind a paywall and there are furniture pieces that was never offered in the actual game, like the bahamut and carby lamps. Whether you want to believe it or not, SE is doing the exact same thing. I would actually say putting seasonal event items in the cash shop instead of just making them available with a bit of gil the next time the event comes around is a lot more gross. And iirc someone did a count and Mog Station actualy had more on it than the WoW shop and that doesn't even include them doing things like charging us monthly for extra storage (retainers) instead of making it available with a one time purchase with in game currency.

The shop not being part of the game is also just poor design and very inconvenient. They added dreamfitting relatively recently because they would make more sales that way. They didn't decide not to add the shop to the game because they care so very much about the player. Saying its less gross because you cannot access the shop in game is just as silly as mockin Blizz for something SE also does and makes you look more like just another fanboy who wants to make it rain on the shareholders than anything.

[Solowing]

The shop not being part of the game is also just poor design and very inconvenient. They added dreamfitting relatively recently because they would make more sales that way. They didn't decide not to add the shop to the game because they care so very much about the player. Saying its less gross because you cannot access the shop in game is just as silly as mockin Blizz for something SE also does and makes you look more like just another fanboy who wants to make it rain on the shareholders than anything.

Yoshida mentioned in the recent LL that he generally disliked the feature and wanted to make sure it is as hidden away as possible. To avoid linking to cash shop directly from the game. What you are proposing goes against this philosophy.

The Shop is tucked away away from the game itself. I am one who really appreciates the approach that was done with Dream fitting. Allowing players to view Mogstation sets, but keeping the item shop out of the game itself. IMO its very non-invasive.

Putting a storefront in game is exactly what shareholders would want to increase sales. And that's what you want. I don't want an storefront in game. I like the Mogstation being pretty un-invasive and not reachable through XIV itself. Because if you do add it ingame they are going to pattern you into that storefront. Or they wouldnt have added a storefront. So who's trying to make it rain on the shareholders again?

Im ok with them selling retired items. We get a chance to get it free, and S.E gets a chance to sell it. I think that's fair. We want to have fun, and they are wanting us to pay. I think the "Drop to Shop" pipeline is fair for both parties. We have an opportunity to get the drops free, but once the event ends, so does the opportunity to obtain these things for free, and it becomes a paid item eventually. Is there anything "out of pocket" about that? What seems unreasonable about that?


Just like when the game asks people to utilize their plot, and people are like "why do I have to use my plot once every 45 days!?!" and its like....Why is checking into a plot once every other month and a week hard? The game is giving you more time to take a break then most N/A jobs give in a year. And still that's not enough? Which is why I don't really see eye to eye on that. Its not the games job to account for your physical, mental, or emotional well being. This game isn't your friend. They want you to take breaks, but they didn't say they wanted you to leave..

One-month vacations are rare in North America, as the average American takes around 17 days off per year, typically in one to two-week blocks.

Even if I said the timer should be extended, you'll hear a large groan in the back from those who don't have a plot understanding their wait time just increased another 3-6 months at every plot. What of those players? They now just get the short end of the stick, no consideration for them. Tough luck, Timmy I don't feel like playing for 5 months, you can watch my plot sit empty for half the year, to pop in for 5 seconds, and disappear for another 5 months because my emotional attachment to the plot alone is worth more then your want to utilize it. I understand the sentimental value. But here if its valuable to you, you have to find it a niche. Or you will feel sub-locked from your own emotional attachment, but lack of use for it. An become bitter towards the system that assures you have to make use of your plot, that you wanted anyway...

[LaylaTsarra]

The key is if you completed the events they were featured in. For new players there is over a decade's worth of furniture locked exclusively behind a paywall and there are furniture pieces that was never offered in the actual game, like the bahamut and carby lamps. Whether you want to believe it or not, SE is doing the exact same thing. I would actually say putting seasonal event items in the cash shop instead of just making them available with a bit of gil the next time the event comes around is a lot more gross. And iirc someone did a count and Mog Station actualy had more on it than the WoW shop and that doesn't even include them doing things like charging us monthly for extra storage (retainers) instead of making it available with a one time purchase with in game currency.

There was a time when you could buy past seasonal event items during a new event with in game currency. I know the Summer event allowed the purchase of bathing suits from previous years but that stopped at some point and as you've pointed out those items went to the cash shop.

My big issue with the Cash Shop and as a result I buy little from there is items are not account wide and for someone like me with many alts that is not something I'm willing to support. Only items i buy multiple of for my alts are some of the cheap emotes (dances especially) that are no longer available in game. Dote, songbird and a few others for example. Most of those are 2 dollars but it still irks me that we have no emote, item, mount or achievement bank which is account wide like many other games.