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  1. #21
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    Alicie's Avatar
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    Alicie Wonder
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    Instead of outright removing, gradually increase cap with time.
    First 4 weeks: 450/week
    4 next weeks: 900/week
    .1/.3/.5: cap is removed and savage raids are unlocked
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  2. #22
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    If I have a job at cap I want to get the same tomes if I am running it on a lower level job to level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=311368

    (Roughly translated statement) :
    "In the current MMORPG, Final Fantasy14, there is a part of what users who play. It’s up to the players to decide how to play in the game. That's why we're trying to figure out how to make suggestions on the game side, help users find what they want to do, or easily tell them what kind of fun content they can do in a limited amount of time.

    In the absence of the user disposable time mentioned earlier, we think there is definitely something that we can propose. It is my will that I want to evolve the service in this regard. In the extreme, in fact, four hundred and fifty Allagan Tomestones may not make much sense to those who are not interested in item levels. Then you can think about the mounts, the cosmetics, and the direction in exchange for this.
    Where does it say that it is the entire point of the game is to get said tomestones?
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    Last edited by MsQi; 11-22-2025 at 12:37 PM.
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  3. #23
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Where does it say that it is the entire point of the game is to get said tomestones?
    It's the general aura of the entire answer to the question, which had several paragraphs.

    He was saying that people play to get 450 tomestones and then don't know what to do so they just logout (this is what we see as activity booms on Tuesdays and weekends with all the weeklies). Those that do know what to do, have figured it out from social interaction.

    He's considering therefore having the game make suggestions on what to do after getting the tomestones instead.

    But then, people might not value even what they get for 450 tomestones if they don't value gear, so then see no reason to login on Tuesday at all, so the consideration is allowing other things to be bought with it instead.

    I understand what is being said, but you know, to many of us, 450 tomestones is just what we get in the first few hours of Tuesday from hunt trains before doing whatever else we want to do. It's almost barely a thought.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yimiko View Post
    For a long time, the weekly tome limit has been in place to keep people playing daily/weekly content, but it just doesn't really make much sense anymore. You subscribe by the month, and get a lower charge for more months at a time. How does forcing people to play week to week just to keep up their gear make sense?
    Furthermore, it's always limited people to one or two classes to "main." The game has more than 20 classes. Let people actually work towards their gear at their own pace, let them play as many classes as they wish without arbitrary time gated gear and tome restrictions. Just get rid of this old holdover of 450 tomes a week.
    Most people aren't paying on a six month basis, but the usual month to month. Without that restriction lulls like we've currently had would have even less reason to stay subbed. Not to mention, unlimited tomes would render their entire gear treadmill obsolete. After all, what purpose does a "catch up" patch serve if you already have access to the better gear? Likewise, crafting gear instantly becomes worthless since why buy i740 when two sets of roulettes nearly gives enough for anything except chest, legs or weapon?

    The 450 tome limit is absolutely a subscription incentive and there's zero chance they ever remove it. My only real issue is they should increase it in odd patches to go along with the whole "catch up" mindset. Alas, I suspect they still feel it's too much of an incentive to gamble.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yoshi-P literally just said in the last week that the entire point of the game is "to get 450 tomestones every week".

    Far from getting rid of it, he's considering letting you buy mounts and other reward with it "because not everyone is interested in item level" and worried that competitors might beat him to doing this so he didn't reveal more.
    While I do think more uses for tomes would be a good thing for the weekly ones I do think this just hides the big issue with IL gear currently. Going from 7.2 into 7.3, sure you can start to cap your IL to the best you can get but the question is, why? There was no additional harder content added to the game that would require upgraded tome gear Deep Dungeon has it's own gear system and the only battle content added that helps with IL are the Extreme raid from MSQ and Monster Hunter. The Dev team needs to re-evaluate the way content is released because there is no reason why there should be this lul in content where your IL gains are just way to overtuned for the current content. There is at least use for the .4/.5 gear since that will carry you to about level XX7/ in the MSQ so you aren't constantly changing out gear every 2 levels but at the same time this gear rotation is just becoming a boring mechanic that shoudl be rethought. I"m not even asking for a full rehaul, I would just like to see accessories experimented with where they aren't just an IL boost and actually serve a unique purpose with gearing that isn't straight up make number bigger.
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    Minah Denma
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 100
    There are poeple who just use the gear from normal raids and alliance raids and don't farm tomestones every week. And when they have the capped tomes at max after 4 months or so they don't know what to do with them, let alone the uncapped tomes.
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  8. #27
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    Shinku Tachi
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    Goblin
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    Fisher Lv 100
    There is no pressing need to. The game throws enough gear at you to easily keep your ilvl right and allow you into current content.

    Besides, if they did uncap it, they'd also do something like add a zero or two to the cost of each piece to offset the cap removal, whilst keeping the amount the amount of tomes you get for every duty the same.
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  9. #28
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    Asako Natsume
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 100
    For years the Cap limit has actually made me play less. Some weeks you have more time to play than others but once you hit 450 you can't do anything. It's got to the point now that I no longer gear other jobs as it's simply not worth the time. Yoshi doesn't want me to play actively so I stopped playing actively. I can understand for the first 2 weeks whilst world first races are going on, but they clear in a few days and it's a who cares anymore issue after that.

    7 weeks for the Tome weapon drop is ridiculous too. 4 max should be the standard.

    If I want to play other jobs I have to wait several weeks to get enough tomes. You're lucky to get a pair of socks for your character with 450 Tomes.

    I do my Savage raids twice a week and that's me done.
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  10. #29
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    Khloe Lafihna
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 64
    i would be down if they lowered the costs for items from previous expansion and added more to buy like the mounts, and stuff someone mention. everything tomestone costs wise needs to be adjusted iwth the previous expansions.
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asako View Post
    7 weeks for the Tome weapon drop is ridiculous too. 4 max should be the standard.
    Actually yeah that's another thing that should change. 4 is way better.
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